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Wei Phoenix
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From what I read Cains armor cant be cut by Wolverine but im sure its happened in an issue at least once. But that's writers discretion.

Never happened, Wolverine has removed his helmet yeah that's not that hard, even Beast can do so but he has never cut him or hurt him.

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No one said he was beating him although Cain beat him with strength alone.

Cain is a different case. hell, if you ask me he shouldn't be beaten according to paper but that's comics.

Im not Marvel/DC rivalry biased, I just call it like I see it.

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Never been a big Thor fan but even if Supermans faster, how would Super man beat him?

To whip Thor, youll need more than strength and last I checked Super man is weak against Lighting...the same lightning from Thors hammer save the fact that it's magic but it is what it is.

no lightning doesnt hurt supes magic does

and supes is amgic being so yes it would ahrd for supes to win. But thor can be straight up over powered, I think superman is equalclassic thor since he is stronger, faster, they are about the same durability, and a better fighter. but thors hammer and magic abilities make him have an adavantage

Thor currently has an upgrade and would more then likly beat supes pretty easily since he has stronger magic then before

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Cain is a different case. hell, if you ask me he shouldn't be beaten according to paper but that's comics.

Im not Marvel/DC rivalry biased, I just call it like I see it.

Cain is a beast yes, but he isn't stronger than Superman imo due to feats. Neither has a limit on strength that has been shown but Superman has better feats.

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Cain is a different case. hell, if you ask me he shouldn't be beaten according to paper but that's comics.

Im not Marvel/DC rivalry biased, I just call it like I see it.

cain can be removed from battle. or mind raped

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no lightning doesnt hurt supes magic does

and supes is amgic being so yes it would ahrd for supes to win. But thor can be straight up over powered, I think superman is equalclassic thor since he is stronger, faster, they are about the same durability, and a better fighter. but thors hammer and magic abilities make him have an adavantage

Thor currently has an upgrade and would more then likly beat supes pretty easily since he has stronger magic then before

yes it does, captain marvel has used lighting on him to defeat him. i'm glad you finally agree about thor. if everyone here thinks wonderwoman can beat supes, then thor should chances are great.

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yes it does, captain marvel has used lighting on him to defeat him. i'm glad you finally agree about thor. if everyone here thinks wonderwoman can beat supes, then thor should chances are great.

captain marvel doesnt have actual lightning

it's a bolt of pure magic in the shape of lightning

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captain marvel doesnt have actual lightning

it's a bolt of pure magic in the shape of lightning

okay, then it's magical lightning. if it looks like duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck.......then its a duck. in any case it meets the definition of lightning.

Jun 11th, 2009 08:47 PM

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okay, then it's magical lightning. if it looks like duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck.......then its a duck. in any case it meets the definition of lightning.

no because it doesnt have the propeties of lightning just the form of it.

if it is magic in the shape of it then it does damge. and magic blast hurts him

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no because it doesnt have the propeties of lightning just the form of it.

if it is magic in the shape of it then it does damge. and magic blast hurts him

if it looks like a duck....

light⋅ning [lahyt-ning] Show IPA noun, verb, -ninged, -ning, adjective
�noun
1. a brilliant electric spark discharge in the atmosphere,
�verb (used without object)
2. to emit a flash or flashes of lightning (often used impersonally with it as subject):

livewire seems to hurt supes just fine with her lightning as well.

Jun 11th, 2009 08:57 PM

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Superman isn't weak against lightning. It's shown on panel that it barely affects him if at all. When he fought Livewire, he was weakened by his battle with the Queen of Fables to an insane degree, and she still couldn't put him down. The other most notable time by the dam, he was still regaining his powers. Livewire has yet to take on a fully powered Superman.

Captain Marvel's lightning is magic based, and it is the magic aspect that hurts him, not the fact that it looks like lightning.

also, lulz at Superman not having to learn from Diana. Please. She's a better fighter. He can learn something from her. Same goes for Batman. All the strength and speed in the world aint shit if you can't use it properly.

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Exactly what's wrong with my post?

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i think he can beat hulk. hulk's been put out of comission by Ironman...with a punch.

Sentry...at the rate Sentry's been getting owned all supes has to do is look at him angrily and say "boo"

Thor....i don't see supes winnnig this one. thor's a beast. it'll be a tough fight but i don't see supes taking down thor. especially not king thor.

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i think he can beat hulk. hulk's been put out of comission by Ironman...with a punch.

Sentry...at the rate Sentry's been getting owned all supes has to do is look at him angrily and say "boo"

Thor....i don't see supes winnnig this one. thor's a beast. it'll be a tough fight but i don't see supes taking down thor. especially not king thor.

Currently Thor's Mjolnir is broken so he's weakened, I bet Supes could take him

With a fixed Mjolnir though.... different story

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Wow but then what DC/MARVEL hero can beat Superman?

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Currently Thor's Mjolnir is broken so he's weakened, I bet Supes could take him

With a fixed Mjolnir though.... different story

well he's classic again so he still has good chance of beating him

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