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Charlotte DeBel
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Thanks for evidence B.A.
He seems mid meta level based on those feats& healing factor makes it even worse.


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Thanks for evidence B.A.
He seems mid meta level based on those feats& healing factor makes it even worse.


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Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
About Jotaro...if he has that power at LATENT stage (he was TAUGHT how to do so and didn't get the power itself from external source, just the knowledge) it sounds like neutering.
Quicksilver got his powerboost from external source (isotope E) so taking a pre-isotope version is legal and no neutering.

At least that's how I understand that rule.


He could not use the power until he was exposed to the frozen time generated by Dio's timestop. Not neutering, merely selective drafting.


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Akuki
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Shenobi Shaw: Smurf, Akuki, Bransolute, Red
Savage Dragon: Fox, Red, Trickster
Dalek Sec:
Klaw: Smurph, Trickster, Red, Blair, Bran
Mirror master: Bransolute, Akuki, Trickster
Jotaro: Akuki, Smurph, Charlotte DeBel, Bransolute
Venom: Smurph, Fox
Kira:Trickster, Bran
Seras:Trickster


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I found some more stuff of Dragon on a bunch of forums. I know this isn't much but Dragon managed to slow The Midgaurd Serpent down for a little bit by hlding its tale and trying to keep it down.

[img=http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4167/43031045vi6.th.jpg]

And here he manages to knock the MS far back with one punch, he comes back unhurt but if he punches anywone else like that...damn.

[img=http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2171/97867300td3.th.jpg]

He had 100 and something comics, theres allot you haven't seen. Hell I have only seen scans of the Dragon respect thread at HC.

I remember seeing that Fox.
Man, **** THAT SHIT! If that doesn't get Dragon banned, none of this other stuff will.


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Originally posted by Akuki
Shenobi Shaw: Smurf, Akuki, Bransolute, Red
Savage Dragon: Fox, Red, Trickster
Dalek Sec:
Klaw: Smurph, Trickster, Red, Blair, Bran
Mirror master: Bransolute, Akuki, Trickster
Jotaro: Akuki, Smurph, Charlotte DeBel, Bransolute
Venom: Smurph, Fox
Kira:Trickster, Bran
Seras:Trickster
Does their names by the side means against them joining or not? I have looked it over a bit and can't be sure.

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Man, **** THAT SHIT! If that doesn't get Dragon banned, none of this other stuff will.
Thank you, I do my bit. smokin'

Devourers tournament interested me and I want a fair one. stick out tongue

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Originally posted by B.A
Does their names by the side means against them joining or not? I have looked it over a bit and can't be sure.

Anyone who's listed is against that character participating.


Shenobi Shaw: Smurf, Akuki, Bransolute, Red
Savage Dragon: Fox, Red, Trickster, Akuki, Charlotte Debel (I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
Dalek Sec:
Klaw: Smurph, Trickster, Red, Blair, Bran
Mirror master: Bransolute, Akuki, Trickster
Jotaro: Akuki, Smurph, Charlotte DeBel, Bransolute
Venom: Smurph, Fox
Kira:Trickster, Bran
Seras:Trickster


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Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Thanks for evidence B.A.
He seems mid meta level based on those feats& healing factor makes it even worse.
Thanks.

I am not completely sure but that sounds like an against.

Read the mini series of Dragon today. I feel his comic as a whole is over rated. He is pretty cool but the rest is meh. I doubt I will read anymore.

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I still don't see how a character who one-shotted Spidey and is vastly superior all around is in here.

Seriously, people raise hell about Savage Dragon when Venom's here too?

If one is banned, the other should be as well.

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I wouldn't worry too much as of yet Smurph...


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To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if none of the characters got dumped.


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I will damn near raise hell if there aren't a (choice) few banned...

Some aren't smart picks. They're merely illegal.


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I will damn near raise hell if there aren't a (choice) few banned...

Some aren't smart picks. They're merely illegal.

Any that you want to get off your chest? (Other than mine of course stick out tongue )

Actually I would like to mention to people that I specifically went to Illdelph before drafts to ask him whether or not Kira's ability would be allowed and he said yes.


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Any that you want to get off your chest? (Other than mine of course stick out tongue )

Actually I would like to mention to people that I specifically went to Illdelph before drafts to ask him whether or not Kira's ability would be allowed and he said yes.


I'm not gonna say. I mentioned that I wouldn't argue my opinions in this thread, and I'd rather not even state them just to keep as much bias out of this as possible.

But suffice it to say, there are some that need to be banned.


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Klaw transformed into a train to ram into someone, transformed into a giant water being, can create constructs that can duke it out with bigger bricks than are in here... he shouldn't be here.
Venom one-shotted Spider-Man and physically and versatality-wise dwarfs Spidey. He could easily one shot him again. So much for Spidey being able to give a good battle.
Jotaro has invincible (through physical damage, afaik) figures that can fight for him, that can shrink to a size comparable to a red blood cell... that's not low meta.
Kira and Mirror Master can both cause organic matter manipulation, which is bannable.
Shinoni can be as hard as diamond for his whole body and just auto-phase wherever he's hit. He shouldn't be in low meta.

Going from what's been stated and seen so far.

erm

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Kakyoin and Polnareff can pull the size trick, Jotaro can't. It's not something Star Platinum can do.


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Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Klaw transformed into a train to ram into someone, transformed into a giant water being, can create constructs that can duke it out with bigger bricks than are in here... he shouldn't be here.
Venom one-shotted Spider-Man and physically and versatality-wise dwarfs Spidey. He could easily one shot him again. So much for Spidey being able to give a good battle.
Jotaro has invincible (through physical damage, afaik) figures that can fight for him, that can shrink to a size comparable to a red blood cell... that's not low meta.
Kira and Mirror Master can both cause organic matter manipulation, which is bannable.
Shinoni can be as hard as diamond for his whole body and just auto-phase wherever he's hit. He shouldn't be in low meta.

Going from what's been stated and seen so far.

erm


Shenobi Shaw: Smurf, Akuki, Bransolute, Red
Savage Dragon: Fox, Red, Trickster, Akuki, Charlotte Debel (I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
Dalek Sec:
Klaw: Smurph, Trickster, Red, Blair, Bran
Mirror master: Bransolute, Akuki, Trickster, Smurph
Jotaro: Akuki, Smurph, Charlotte DeBel, Bransolute
Venom: Smurph, Fox
Kira:Trickster, Bran, Smurph
Seras:Trickster


By the way smurph, I want to address what I think is a misconception on your part. As we know Kira has the ability to double the weight of any object touched by his sword, however you keep insisting he's changing the density, while I keep arguing it's a change in the gravity.


Kira's power basically changes the force exerted on one specific object:

Force=MassxAcceleration due to gravity
You are suggesting that Kira's power does this:
2F=(2M)(A)
I on the other hand am arguing that Kira's power instead does this:
2F=(M)(2A)
Your theory doesn't pan out for the simple reason that if an object disintegrates or reforms, Kira loses his gravity hold on it. If your theory was the case, this wouldn't effect the weight, because the increased mass would still be there, whereas mine does pan out, because this indicates that he's losing his ability to focus the increased gravity constant.

Also I would like to point out that I specifically went to Illdelph when this tourney started and made sure to ask him if this power was allowed and he okayed it.


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. Not to argue characters, but science...

If it were a gravitational field change, then the object reforming wouldn't matter - it'd still be in the presence of an increased gravitational field.

If an object is lost and then re-created, there is next to no reason it'd be recreated with double the required mass. In fact, your very argument seems to work more against you than for you.

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IIRC Kira's exact words were "it increases the force of gravity on you" and since their powers are magical in nature that could just be literally true.


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