oh definitely. i usually kill the men i am in love with. especially when there is a kraken after us. i think it's the normal scenario.
haven't you ever kissed someone before a dramatic death sequence? it's like what they say about make-up sex. It's the best kiss you'll ever have, and will probably inspire you to throw caution to the wind, brave all and hasten to his rescue, just so you can continue to fantasize about the best kiss you ever had and dream you'll have it again one day...
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you anti-sparrabethers keep refering to the fact that Elizabeth killed Jack as to why they can't be together...but she felt very bad right after it happen...she was a confused young woman...its a fantasy movie....haven't you ever read a romance novel where the hero and heroine are in such denial of their feelings they are constantly doing things to the other that is extreme just to proof to themselves that they have no feelings for the other...that's what makes these "forbidden" love romance stories so hot, sexy and exciting...not the little sweet story of boy meets girl, and they are instantly in love and all is sweet and hunky dory! BORING......
anyways.....I just don't give into that arguement that Lizzy killed Jack..he didn't seem to hold it against her......at first he did, but he got over it......
she acted on impluse.......
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Also my problem with Elizabeth is I am a Captain Jack fan first and foremost. She killed him essentially so she, and her true love Will and the crew could escape. That showed where her priorities were. I doubt that she would have chained Will to a boat and left him to die if the Krakken was after him against Will's own will. That right there let's me know where Elizabeth's heart lies. She was sexually attracted to Captain Jack Sparrow but her heart was with Will and always will be.
And there is nothing to me magical about any chemistry between them and that we're so much alike crap was just Jack flirting I find very little similar about them. And that corny stuff about their names being birds, Will's name is after a bird expert they're all named for bird related things.
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ooooo good point... makes me think of the hundreds of other classic forbidden love stories where something similar happens...
Will doesn't have a real bird name because his character's personality does not merit one. i believe i read that they had originally named his character William Bear and changed it after deciding they had too many animal names. Will isn't obsessed with freedom and he doesn't have problems walking the straight and narrow. if it weren't for Jack Sparrow and the Black Pearl's crew in film 1, he would have happily stayed a blacksmith forever and called Elizabeth Ms. Swann and later Mrs. Norrington. he adapted to a life of piracy, but he just doesn't have quite the same aptitude or need for it like Jack, and Elizabeth.
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you can say all you want...but you will never change my mind..just I will never change yours.......
those of us that are Sparrabethers believe that Jack and Elizabeth are the true romance of POTC..but because of circumstance, misunderstandings, fate.....they can never be together.....or so it would seem........see I don't look at it as just Jack flirting for sex....I see so much more when Jack looks at Elizabeth..and when Liz looks at Jack.....and you are probably right..she probably wouldn't do the same thing to Will...but she wasn't in denial over her feelings for Will..she was suppose to love Will.....with Jack....Jack was forbidden, someone she shouldn't love or want...but she did......same with Jack...he didn't want to love or be attracted to Liz...but he was........anyways.....
as has been said a trillion times over the past year...you'll never see things from the Sparrabeth prospective...and I'll never see the Willabeth prospective......Willabeth was for real life stories...this was a movie, a fantasy world... A Pirates movie...it just made more sense......
Never Mind...it's just a endless cirlce of disagreements...
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an endless cycle... so true... an endless cycle of fun suppositions and enjoyment of a truly great set of characters. it's not all bad. in years to come, psychologists will use this analyze people's love preferences...
Canon is Will and Elizabeth and Captain Jack Sparrow chasing his freedom endlessly and I am cool with canon. Through out the movies Elizabeth chose Will no matter what the consequences were to others or herself. She gave up the rest of her life for one day every ten years with him. I mean there's not much arguing with that. For me this is not making up my mind but just going by the movie strictly, ships aside. Like I said I'm not Willabeth or Sparrabeth really. I have a preference but I'd be perfectly happy with neither at all. I just watched the movies for what they were. I know some people wanted Sparrabeth and started reading extra hard into things but the story is a Willabeth story with a Sparrabeth tease overall. Elizabeth is sexually attracted to Jack but no matter what she always chose Will over any and everything.
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And that, my friends, is how you end up a single mom in a fugly vest waiting on a beach for ten years for your undead heartless husband to come back so you can have 15 minutes of fun and then go back to being a pathetic widowed tragedy wondering what happened to your life.
But her true love with Will to me is better than slutting around with Jack until he goes off on his next adventure for world's unknown. Neither is ideal but Will in his 10 year stints away is a far more stable choice, and she has to go with her heart. Her heart simply isn't with Jack and even though I love him I understand why it isn't and why it's with Will. Her life isn't ideal at all but love isn't ideal either.
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well, what this boils down to is, if i wanted to see an epic tragedy i would go watch some shakespeare.
i disagree that her heart is with Will, I dont think Elizabeth ever wanted stability, and I think she'd rather go sailing off with Jack to something unknown than waste time moping. whether or not jack is involved, i firmly hold to the fact that Elizabeth moves on with her life in some ways.
If we've learned one thing over the course of these films, it's that Elizabeth is selfish and resourceful. A very interesting combination, considering where she finds herself once Will sails away.
The thing is though, what makes Elizabeth and Will's love so special is that they overcome their personality differences to be together. Elizabeth's selfishness is not even more important than Will is to her. She wants to be with him that badly she'll trade anyone or anything and Will was willing to give up his aversion to Pirates simply to find her and be with her. And even when a horrible circumstance like death and that curse stood to break them they chose a way to choose each other and to make it work anyway. That's the story.
I don't think Elizabeth would rather sail off with Jack at all otherwsie she would have. There is nothing stopping her except that fact that she loves Will beyond reason and explanation and she'd rather wait on that cliff for him than do anything else.
Their story definitely could have been told a lot better but it is still a pretty intriguing love story to me. The fact that she would wait ten years at a time to see him says a great deal about how much she loves him because there is little more you can sacrifice than that.
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Dec 12th, 2007 04:26 AM
No one can resist her charms, plus, she is apparently the only woman in the Caribbean under 30.
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it's not all bad. in years to come, psychologists will use this analyze people's love preferences...
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