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not really that difficult doing that though is it?...


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Jaden, everything is immersed in gravitational fields. All objects around us, including ourselves, are attracted by the sun, the moon and the stars, basically everything in existence and vice versa.

Movements of such objects will have energy exchanges. All you need is an invention which taps into these gravitational energy exchanges and tada you have an infinite source of energy!

Another source of infinite energy besides gravitational energy is electron motion energy. There are electrons present in all atoms. These negatively charged particles are rotating around the nucleus, this gives rise to magnetic fields. We could also tap into these fields for yet another inexhaustible form of energy!

The law of conservation of energy is never violated!

About the G-Field, this is not just theory, it has been proven to exist! Willam Hooper proved its existence....read quote

"HOOPER, William : Motional Electric Field ~ The Motional E-Field is akin to gravity in that it cannot be shielded. It is a source for unlimited free energy from the earth's G-field, and anti-gravity. Hooper discovered and proved its existence in the 1970s; since then it has been carefully ignored by most mainstream scientists. Here are his book & patents, & commentaries by Frances Gibson & others."

Download his book and patents here:

http://www.rexresearch.com/zip/hooper.zip


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Another source of infinite energy besides gravitational energy is electron motion energy. There are electrons present in all atoms. These negatively charged particles are rotating around the nucleus, this gives rise to magnetic fields. We could also tap into these fields for yet another inexhaustible form of energy!


i'm well aware of the structure of the atom and harnessing the energy created by the electron jumping from one shell to another is effectively what we are doing with magnetism...the problem is that hard magnetic substances such as lodestone are even more finite than fossil fuels in terms of quantity...soft magnetism that requires electricity to be put in (electromagnetism)to the system are not efficient and thus pointless


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The law of conservation of energy is never violated!


in a closed system yes...but only the universe as a whole is a closed system...the earth is not as it gains and loses energy to space continuously...the problem is that we lose more energy than we can harness because external energy sources like the sun aren't harnessed enough

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"HOOPER, William : Motional Electric Field ~ The Motional E-Field is akin to gravity in that it cannot be shielded. It is a source for unlimited free energy from the earth's G-field, and anti-gravity. Hooper discovered and proved its existence in the 1970s; since then it has been carefully ignored by most mainstream scientists. Here are his book & patents, & commentaries by Frances Gibson & others."


physics "proof" is almost always theoretical....most people do not deny the existence of dark matter but it's never been shown...the same is applicable to the G-field as the frequency in which it exists is outwith the ability of us to detect and thus also harness as a power source

not forgetting, as i mentioned, that the theoretical existence of the G-field is in direct opposition to more scientifically robust and tested theories


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by the way....it's good to have a civil debate with you Katsu...i think we may have started off on the wrong foot in the 9/11 threads

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Jaden, Magnetism, Electricity and Electromagnetism are related to electron motions. Almost every object in existence is made up of atoms and molecules. They all send, reflect and absorb electromagnetic, magnetic, electric energies all of the time. We only need inventions which tap into these energy exchanges.

The law of conservation of energy only works in a closed system where there is no external energy coming or going. In reality however we are immersed in electron and gravitational energy fields.

Or are you saying we are not immersed in gravitational and electron motion energy fields?

Wouldnt that go against all of classical physics as we know it? Newtons Laws of Motion state otherwise!


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Nice explanation of free energy quoted from The Sea of Energy by T. Henry Moray.

"RADIANT ENERGY — the term Moray has used to describe that source of energy coming from the
Cosmos to the earth and radiating from the earth back from whence it came. This is the energy the Moray device
captures and could be described as those particles of energy pervading all space. In the evolution of energy and
the evolution of matter these particles of matter and energy (one and the same thing) manifest under certain
conditions as pure energy and under others as pure matter. Radiant Energy from the Cosmos, like radiant
particles of matter, being composed of an infinitesimal quantity whose behaviors are described by mathematical
equations similar to those used for describing electrical waves, keeping in mind to differentiate between wave
length and frequence. Radiant- Energy being particles of energy, just as light is wave lengths and particles is
comparable to the electron and magnetron; a ring of negative electricity traveling in a vortex with the speed of
light. Streams of energy quanta, each quantum having energy and momentum where the electron revolves
around the proton at a distance equal to the electron radius.
To Summarize — Radiant Energy as herein used is that energy existing in the lumineferous medium of the
Universe, kinetic and exercised in wave transmission and rendered sensible by conversion of its energy into a
detectable frequency. The phenomenon of the transducer combined with fission. IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS
RADIANT ENERGY IS A MEANS OF USING THE ENERGY RELEASED BY THE FISSIONABLE
REACTIONS TAKING PLACE IN THE STELLAR CRUCIBLES OF THE UNIVERSE."


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People watch this, itsa simple explanation.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...h&plindex=1

EDIT wrong link, im sorry


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meet archer quinn, your friendly neighborhood rapist and mad scientist. http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/...descent-into-m/

serial killer version of ron jeremy anyone?


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meet archer quinn, your friendly neighborhood rapist and mad scientist. http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/05/...descent-into-m/

serial killer version of ron jeremy anyone?


Ha! Ignorant one has arrived, i welcome thee!

If you cannot understand whats being said in here you better STAY OUT and GET BACK TO WATCHING MTV 24/7 MY DUMB FRIEND!

Read enlightening quote ignorant one by the Wright Brothers, c. 1900.

"Man will not be able to fly for at least another 50 years"


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by the way....it's good to have a civil debate with you Katsu...i think we may have started off on the wrong foot in the 9/11 threads

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Does civil debating also include replying when people ask you a question?

Please answer my question: are you saying we are not immersed in gravitational and electron motion energy fields?


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Does civil debating also include replying when people ask you a question?

Please answer my question: are you saying we are not immersed in gravitational and electron motion energy fields?


I have no idea...i'm not a physicist


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I have no idea...i'm not a physicist


Me neither!

What i do know is that Newton's General Gravitational Law = all masses attract each other. Now if we were not immersed in gravitational energy fields, classical physics is wrong.

Where masses attract, energy exchanges occur. Tapping into these exchanges will provide us with infinite energy.

The devices/inventions which tap into these energies already exist!


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gravity is a relatively weak force in relation to others though...it's only cause of huge mass that gravity becomes a major force

not to mention that the gravitational force or dark matter is not known because it's not detectable itself...well it is only in the sense that known matter cant account for all gravitational force in the universe


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gravity is a relatively weak force in relation to others though...it's only cause of huge mass that gravity becomes a major force


Well, all bodies in this universe are exchanging these energies as we speak! The sun attracts the Earth and vice versa. Jupiter is doing Mars and Mars is doing it with Saturn. Its a great party of energy exchanging!

Or do you feel Jupiter does not have enough mass? Care if i dropped Jupiter on your head? stick out tongue


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Well, all bodies in this universe are exchanging these energies as we speak! The sun attracts the Earth and vice versa. Jupiter is doing Mars and Mars is doing it with Saturn. Its a great party of energy exchanging!

Or do you feel Jupiter does not have enough mass? Care if i dropped Jupiter on your head? stick out tongue


it's all relative though...the mass of jupiter in relation to a neutron star is tiny

nut again....the objects we can detect are only supposed to be accountable for 4% of the total energy density in the universe...dark matter is 22% and emits little or no electromagnetic energy (meaning it's useless as an energy source) and the rest is dark energy which again is only theoretical as it cant be detected or utilised

say we were to harness just the energy of the earth's rotation...how would we do it?....


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You have to get very technical when you ask HOW we would do it. Since im no scientist ill have to quote from Cosmic Energy Machines by Lee Tseung on this one. This guy has working devices which have been patented by the Chinese government!!

"The Lee-Tseung theory predicts that both gravitational and electron motion energy can be lead out via pulse force at resonance on oscillating, vibrating, rotating or flux change systems. The ideal pulse force for a simple pendulum can be thought of as the pull applied perpendicular to the arc of motion when the pendulum bob is at the maximum displaced position. The detailed mathematical proof is via the analysis of the simple pendulum during the application of the ideal pulse force. The pulse force increases the tension of the string and leads out gravitation energy. For a horizontal pulse force, two parts of pulse energy can lead out approximately one part of gravitational energy. This gives a Coefficient of Performance (COP or output energy/input energy) of 1.5 during the application of the pulse. Some forum members did not appreciate the qualifying statement of “during the application” and thought that the pulsed pendulum was a COP =1.5 system as a whole.

This misunderstanding is corrected here:

(1) Let the time at which pulse force is applied be T pulse
(2) Let the time of oscillation of the pendulum be T oscillation
(3) Let Tpulse be 1/100 of T oscillation. This represents the real case of pushing a swing and then let go. Most of the swinging time has NO pulse force.
(4) Let the system during the NO pulse force period be very efficient. Assume the COP is 1.0.
(5) The overall COP for such a system is not 1.5 and should be calculated as follows: 1.0 + (1.5 –1)*1/100 (Spreading the higher efficiency over the total time) = 1.0 +0.005 = 1.005
(6) In the real world, the pendulum has COP less than 1 during the NO pulse force period. Thus the net result of the real pulsed pendulum is less than 1.
(7) In order to get the real pulsed pendulum to exceed 1, we have to do one or more of the following:
 Increase the number of pulses per unit time
 Increase the pulse period
 One practical way is to change the pulsed oscillation of the pendulum to the pulsed rotation of a cylinder.
 With a pulse- rotating cylinder, we can increase the number of pulse points; increase the rotational speed; increase the mass at the rim; and increase the diameter of the cylinder to lead out the larger amount of gravitational energy.

The gravitational energy is not created but lead out. Patent offices, scientists and many inventors have not understood this lead out energy source in the past. Use of this lead out energy does not violate the law of conservation of energy."


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Car running on WATER unveiled in Japan!

WOW! It also runs on tea and soda! All we now need is some OILcompanies to invest!

How much more proof does one need! Free energy!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/pla...14&src=news


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Car running on WATER unveiled in Japan!

WOW! It also runs on tea and soda! All we now need is some OILcompanies to invest!

How much more proof does one need! Free energy!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/pla...14&src=news


subesquently found that the car actually runs by use of a metal hydride which is consumed as it converts the water into hydrogen...making it a metal hydride powered car...rather than a water powered car


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Actually its energy comes from burning the elements hydrogen AND oxygen.

It runs on water. Its not a hydrogen car! Difference is hydrogen is produced onboard.


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you cant get more energy out splitting water than into hydrogen and oxygen than it takes to split it in the 1st place without using a sacrificial anode

and why would you want to invent a car that burns hydrogen and oxygen to form water...just to split the water back into hydrogen and oxygen anyway

so the only way it's possible is by the electrolysis of water...which takes more energy than it gives out...making it pointless


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