im gonna take the five year olds approach and say PROVE IT you cant really. its just a statement of faith as in most eligions. we dont know what happened and neither do the writters of the bible considering it was written 40 YEARS LATER. (im being harsh today i apologize)
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Yes you can feel for a heart beat but they were not aware of how low the heart can beat and the person still remain alive, when a body goes into trauma it can slow the heart beat down to almost nothing to conserve of blood. The beat will be very slow and almost undetectable, even today doctors miss this. If he also had low blood pressure it makes the pulse harder to detect, other medical conditions can affect this as well. I could site thousands of cases where modern doctors missed the sings of life without proper equipment. Stabbing a person is not a sure way to kill them, people have survived multiple stab wounds and unless you hit vital organs you can recover.
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, chickenlover. Like in court, you're the one trying to disprove something rather than affirm it, so the burden of proof is on you.
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However you are trying to prove that he is divine so the burden of proof would be one you. That he was human is not in question, you are trying to prove that he was something more.
* in the human aspect, yes... but Jesus, according to the Bible, is not human... His three-year preaching is very rigid, not too mention He was always persecuted and wanted to be killed by the Jews...
* so you are talking about the Catholic church? nope, they may be hiding several nasty things but Jesus' writing is none of them... Catholicism and Christianity are two different things... Christianity originated from the Bible while Catholicism is what we have today in Vatican, Rome... in the Bible, Jesus did not write anything, if so, Saint Luke should have mentioned it...
* it still depends on what kind of proof a person is accepting... Muslims accept Qur'an as proof, Christians accept the Bible as proof... don't you accept the teachings of Buddha as proof?
* you should not inject your personal view to others... you have said that in "Christian mythology", Jesus was the son of god, and could have had angels write books for him... i replied, according to the Bible, Jesus IS the Son of God and it is impossible for Him to be incapable of writing... you contradict your own argument, i just answered in parallel to your premise...
* why should He specify? His disciples are not that stupid...
* that's your belief... considering you're a Buddhist, i also belief that your faith is misplaced... so, fair enough?
* true, because believing Jesus is 100% divine and 100% human is NOT Biblical... according to the Bible, Jesus is divine, in the form of God, and was manifested in the flesh... so basically, His body is human but Jesus Himself is divine...
* just for clarification... Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, etc. are all Catholic figures... they are not related in Christianity and the Bible...
Last edited by dyajeep on Mar 30th, 2008 at 07:53 AM
oh really Christianity are those who follow ther word of this alleged jesus christ, among them you find the catholics, they are just one of numerous denominations. It says more about the religion as a whole when you see how many followers of it it has and how many who really have a differnt doctrine on the same word
so who is the ones YOU would say are the ones that practice christianity then
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Looking at you.
You are confusing belief with proof. Proof would be like dropping an apple and having it hit the ground. A Christian, a Muslim and a Buddhist can all drop an apple and the apple will fall to the ground regardless of the persons religion.
Then you did not understand my premise to begin with.
How do you know that? They may have been very stupid.
You seem to misunderstand most everything I say to you. As a Christian, you should have your faith in god and not in the people who wrote the bible.
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you cant really. its just a statement of faith as in most eligions. we dont know what happened and neither do the writters of the bible considering it was written 40 YEARS LATER. (im being harsh today i apologize)
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