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Oh don't worry, I wasn't trying to convert you. It had nothing to do with your comprehension of the situation. It's just as you said, he's simply a better writer than other apologists.

And Narnia isn't what made C.S. Lewis famous, ya know.


I realize it was just friendly advice, not an attempt at conversion.

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But I read a lot, so it's not inconceivable that I'll get around to him someday.


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Ok, Atheists I can deal with, but you insult Narnia again and I'll eat you for breakfast mad stick out tongue

Aslan = Badass


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laughing out loud


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Ok, Atheists I can deal with, but you insult Narnia again and I'll eat you for breakfast mad stick out tongue

Aslan = Badass


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Aslan = heavy-handed allegory. Allegory is great when done properly, but not when it's accomplished with all the subtlety of a kick to the balls. And there's other books in the series that are even more overt in their Christian leg-humping. It's fine as children's lit, just not as legitimate fantasy literature for an adult reader. On par with the early Harry Potter books, but not up to the standards set by the genre's best.

So eat away...don't don't pour too much milk and get me soggy.


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Aslan = heavy-handed allegory. Allegory is great when done properly, but not when it's accomplished with all the subtlety of a kick to the balls. And there's other books in the series that are even more overt in their Christian leg-humping. It's fine as children's lit, just not as legitimate fantasy literature for an adult reader. On par with the early Harry Potter books, but not up to the standards set by the genre's best.

So eat away...don't don't pour too much milk and get me soggy.


I don't think most children equate Aslon to jeebus unless they are told about it.


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Aslan = heavy-handed allegory. Allegory is great when done properly, but not when it's accomplished with all the subtlety of a kick to the balls. And there's other books in the series that are even more overt in their Christian leg-humping. It's fine as children's lit, just not as legitimate fantasy literature for an adult reader. On par with the early Harry Potter books, but not up to the standards set by the genre's best.

So eat away...don't don't pour too much milk and get me soggy.
find something like that in eragon. i dare you


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find something like that in eragon. i dare you


Where there is good and evil...there can also be religion.



FAIL! mad mad mad


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find something like that in eragon. i dare you


Sucky movie.


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Sucky movie.


INDEED! A very sucky, sucky movie! And I only saw the first hour. For most of which I was trying to figure out if the lead actor was attractive or weird looking.


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He was annoying, that was for sure.

I can't believe Jermey Irons and John Malkovich did this film. They must have been paid a lot of money.


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Aslan = heavy-handed allegory. Allegory is great when done properly, but not when it's accomplished with all the subtlety of a kick to the balls. And there's other books in the series that are even more overt in their Christian leg-humping. It's fine as children's lit, just not as legitimate fantasy literature for an adult reader. On par with the early Harry Potter books, but not up to the standards set by the genre's best.

So eat away...don't don't pour too much milk and get me soggy.


1) Agreed, Aslan is a very heavy handed allegory. But that nonetheless is an interesting allusion to the Christian Messiah. I agree with your in that generally I also prefer a much more subtle allegory in characters (Which the Narnia series is also full of) I read, so I was pleasantly surprised to read such a well written series containing overtly Christian orientated characters.
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I don't think most children equate Aslon to jeebus unless they are told about it.


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Sucky movie.
the movie was shit. the book was awesome. i have never seen a worse movie adaptation. ever.


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I don't think most children equate Aslon to jeebus unless they are told about it.


Which is why the movie works for children. As an adult, I felt almost insulted by how obvious they make it. So like I said, works as children's lit. Just not at the level set by nearly any sophisticated work in the genre.

Besides, I'm going to give my kids The Golden Compass to read when they get into middle school.


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Which is why the movie works for children. As an adult, I felt almost insulted by how obvious they make it. So like I said, works as children's lit. Just not at the level set by nearly any sophisticated work in the genre.

Besides, I'm going to give my kids The Golden Compass to read when they get into middle school.

i loved the golden compass, not because of the message where they "kill god" which i find to be bullshit, since it was an angel POSING, but because it was BEAUTIFULLY written. i enjoyed the third book the most however. i read it when i was 12 or 13, it was my fav series. it still remains in my top 5.


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the movie was shit. the book was awesome. i have never seen a worse movie adaptation. ever.


There's a book?


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There's a book?
no expression that makes me so so very sad. yes there is. it was over 9000 times better. seriously read the book, and never ever compare that book to that movie adaptation piece of shit. they killed that book. i cried


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i cried


Pussy. wink


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Pussy. wink
oh plz it was cause i was with teh ladies wink


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oh plz it was cause i was with teh ladies wink


Next you're going to tell us that you're getting a sex change...*sigh*


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