I had the greatest idea for a sequel today, and it's also a lot like a crossover.
And there are also spoilers.
So, the movie begins with Bruce Banner traveling across the world, now content with his inner Hulk, and while not able to fully contain it, he can limit its actions and objectives. And in other news, Betty and Ross are trying to come closer as father and daughter, while Tony Stark and Nick Fury begin adding more links to the US army, starting with Thunderbolt Ross. Betty is worried that her father may be after Bruce again, so she goes out to find him. And who's tracking her? No one else but dear ol' daddy.
During this, we see shadows of a man going into a bar in a distant country. He asks for volunteers to be apart of his new army. Someone tells him that the man's nuts, and is quickly on the floor dead in the wink of an eye. In fear, the rest agree, and mention other places to find followers.
We go back to Bruce, who is warned of Betty's coming by her, but soon finds on satellite that SHIELD and the US army appear to be following her.
While preparing a plan to get Betty without being seen by everyone else, Bruce notices a bunch of men in odd uniforms heading into an empty warehouse. Of course, the doctor goes to investigate. Once he sneaks in, he hears a familiar voice. "Banner!" he shouts. Coming down on a hovering platform is none other than Samuel Sterns, now green and with the largest brain around. Calling himself the Leader, Sam shows his former associate a device that can manipulate gamma radiation, mainly Bruce's. Ah, but Bruce now has better Hulk control, and speeds up his blood pressure, initiating the transformation sequence. But the Leader's device is designed for manipulation on Banner pre-transformed, let alone during the transformation sequence.
But finally, the transformation is over, and out comes the Hulk. Oh, but not the green Hulk. We're talking something much bigger, and much meaner. Ladies and gents, meet the Gray Hulk. The Gray Hulk then begins to rip apart and destroy everything in sight. In a last ditch effort, the Leader takes the surviving men with him in an escape pod, with a brand new plan.
Gray Hulk forgets about Betty and decides to do whatever he wants, including scaring people and destroying towns he doesn't like.
The army then picks up Betty against her will, and go to grab this nastier Hulk. When meeting up with the Gray Hulk, the beast ignores Betty(breaking her heart), and tells General Ross to back off. Of course, he refuses, and the army fights. They lose, and Tony Stark comes in as Iron Man. His Mach III armor is trashed, and Tony retreats with the army.
This is where we go to SHIELD headquarters, and the Leader breaks in with his posse. Sterns then looks for the prisoner's wing, where we get all sorts of villain cameos(any you wish, really). The plan? Free the Abomination! Blonsky agrees to work with the Leader, as long as he gets his rematch with the Hulk.
Now, Betty works with Stark and SHIELD's top scientists to find a way to reconfigure the Hulk back to his old self. They find a way, but it must be drunk. So what is planned for this mission? Tony Stark's newest creation: The Hulkbuster Armor.
We then get an epic battle between the Hulkbuster Iron Man and the Gray Hulk. Once the Hulkbuster Armor is almost completely destroyed, Tony manages to make Gray Hulk drink the serum, and Banner's back to his old self. And right at that moment, Leader's hovercraft appears, takes everyone hostage, and the Abomination finishes off the damaged Hulkbuster Armor. Leader tells Bruce where they will be, and that he has 24 hours to save everyone as the Hulk, or else.
Then the final battle between the Hulk, Abomination, and Leader's high tech army begins!
And Abomination has amphibian ears in the comics. Change is fine.
And shut up with "Research is good". I know he's weak in the comics, but not everything is the same in movies, especially when it makes better story telling And besides, I bet I've read far more Hulk comics than you, you ass, and you're telling me "research is good".
I liked Ang Lee's version better. Not one single person I know liked Lee's better. I don't know why.
I thought the Hulk's texture, action sequences, and voice were MUCH MUCH better, though.
I loved this film. I am about to walk out the door to go watch this film again. Except, this time, it will be in a fully digital theater. (Video AND audio...the same theater that I saw Iron Man in. )
I ridiculously loved [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Tony Stark's appearance at the end of the movie.. Since I was in a New Jersey theater at the time, EVERYONE was very vocal and clapped, hooped, and yelled at that part. People from Jersey are VERY vocal in the theater. Never have I been in a theater where people clapped and yelled so much through out a movie.
I don't know...maybe after I watch the movie in this Digital theater (much better sound), maybe I'll just be wowed into liking this film more. From a comics perspective, yes, this new one was much better....
I dunno...it's hard for me to say.
I'll tell you what I think after watching it again.
Changing the look of a character is a lot different than making one of Hulk's known weaker incarnations, stronger and meaner. It wouldn't make better "storytelling" either. Joe Fixit hasn't got anywhere near the storyline versatility that the regular Hulk has. Granted he's more toward the side of villain anti-hero then normal anti-hero, but I still don't think it's wise or good to waste movie time on something that you can't do much with without creating a totally new persona.
Changing source is not the same as changing character depending on how it's done. Sterns still has reason to be a begrudged, angry, eccentric scientist with a grudge, the way he was introduced doesn't change this.
Exactly, and I disagree it would work.
I never doubted Norton for a second, actually. He said he was basing it on the Bruce Jones run, and that's one of my favourite runs. I never said it needs to be word for word, if change works, it works. I just think you happen to suck at writing what you claim to be "awesome" ideas for sequels. You could write an identical replication of the Future Imperfect arc for all I know, and based on your writing skill, I'd still not like it.
I couldn't write a good one cos it's not what I do, so therefore I don't try.
A) Doubtful.
B) If that makes you feel better, then go for it.
Oh, and originally it was "Grey".
Might wanna do that. Like I said, research is good. It truly is.
Sterns wasn't an actual scientist. He was actually very unintelligent pre-transformation, and certainly was no friend of Banner's.
And he never had a grudge. He was just power hungry.
Research is good.
Suuuure.
I'm not you.
It's written both ways, and most writers of Fixit wrote it as Gray. Research is good, you know.
A scientist who is bad at science is still a scientist. Profession or not, he wasn't "bad" at it anyway.
So when am I gonna get the apology for the gross assumption that, to me, everything has to be 100% by the book and 100% true to the comics? Cos you got that mighty wrong.
Instead of finding reasons to reply and save face because I know more, either stop replying or apologise. I mean, it happens, you know? Someone will always know more, you just happen to have met yours. Get over it and move on. Of course, now you enter the dilemma of..."Do I keep replying cos I need the last word, or, do I stop replying and save a bit of dignity?". Tough one.
You entertain me, though. So I demand you keep this up, but keep it relevant.
So? It was relevant change. Rather than spend time fleshing out the rather unnecessary backstory, they imported a bit of [SPOILER - highlight to read]: The Leader into Sterns first. Either way, he's going to end up just as effective, because he played the role right as a HUMAN, much less what he'll become.
So...let's get this straight. You claim I am someone who feels EVERYTHING has to be 100% true to the comics, no deviation, and yet despite correcting you and defending the opposite (In this very post as well as ones before), you refuse to admit you were wrong?
Foolish boy.
You entertain me, keep it up (Though you run the risk of looking even more stupid).
Cute. Didn't know Snape impressions were hot these days. I'll be sure to sound superior and important by acting like an ass, too. And I can't forget to say 'foolish boy', either, or miss that my opposite entertains me, because in Internet Land it's intimidating and tough.
Another day, another silly squabble...and all this about a live-action Shrek movie!
__________________ Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
I've never understood that comparison and I truly feel that anyone who actually thinks the Hulk looks like Shrek is an idiot who's openly displaying their stupidity.
__________________ You guys need to start taking things a little more seriously.
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