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The one thing I learned from this, the Star Wars EU is ****ing retarded. Jedi and Sith being able to destroy planets and all. I much prefer them just having some kick-ass abilities, as seen in the movies.


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Hey, we didnt make the universe, we just acknowledge it.


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Not blaming anyone here. I acknowledge that it's ****ing lame.


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Hard to determine. We mostly saw the time slowed down to so we could see it, how fast he really was is hard to determine. We do know that he can move his arm fast enough to punch someone over 50 meters through the air. Which, is a very fast punch.


No, the time slow down was few and far between. Almost all shots during the fight sequences were normal speed.

The punch thing is moot. Luke punches beyond a level 10 punch. They dubbed that the Hawaiian Punch because it is just so radtastical.


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No, the time slow down was few and far between. Almost all shots during the fight sequences were normal speed.

The punch thing is moot. Luke punches beyond a level 10 punch. They dubbed that the Hawaiian Punch because it is just so radtastical.
No, they appeared normal speed.


Also, how is it mood. It's simple physics, if you want to punch a human being 50 metres you better move your hand ****ing fast.

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The one thing I learned from this, the Star Wars EU is ****ing retarded. Jedi and Sith being able to destroy planets and all. I much prefer them just having some kick-ass abilities, as seen in the movies.


It's not that bad actually. Except for the odd idiocy, they do keep the Jedis and a reasonable level.


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Not blaming anyone here. I acknowledge that it's ****ing lame.
And the Matrix isn't? The Matrix BURIES the SW in terms of silliness.


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No, they appeared normal speed.


Oh...my fault. I thought that the bullets flying by, even in slow mo, was indicative of their moving in normal speed.

Aside from endless sarcasm, do you have a video that shows that they are moving faster than everything else around them except for that one punch Neo threw at the end?

That's right, if the Wachowski Bros. wanted to show that they were moving so fast that everything else was slow mo, they would have. Picture "The One". That effect was shown in that movie.


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Also, how is it mood. It's simple physics, if you want to punch a human being 50 metres you better move your hand ****ing fast.


Dude, WTF?

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Right on. I am sick of hearing how fast Neo is, show us. It is documented how fast Luke is.


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Dude. WTF?


What about admitting that that is a feat instead of...you know dodging and making a lame joke?


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But Hawaiian punch is yummy.


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But Hawaiian punch is yummy.


Oh, okay. In that case that makes it alright to disregard the immense speed one must have to punch someone for many meters.


Also, fighting against 6 Superhuman agents at a time.

Also fighting so fast your hand becomes a blur the first time you do fight.

'tis all standard.


Can we see some Luke feats topping that. Or are we still at "force stasis pwns all...lulz...except boba "?


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Oh, okay. In that case that makes it alright to disregard the immense speed one must have to punch someone for many meters.


Also, fighting against 6 Superhuman agents at a time.

Also fighting so fast your hand becomes a blur the first time you do fight.

'tis all standard.


Can we see some Luke feats topping that. Or are we still at "force stasis pwns all...lulz...except boba "?
Precog.


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Precog.
its been stated more than enouhg times neo has a same kinda o fprecog, especially since he has knowledge of ALL types of martial arts, he'd know what luke was doing same way luke did,

also what proo supports that luke can defend against machine gun shots

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its been stated more than enouhg times neo has a same kinda o fprecog, especially since he has knowledge of ALL types of martial arts, he'd know what luke was doing same way luke did,

also what proo supports that luke can defend against machine gun shots
and as before, I say PROVE IT....PROVE Neo has precog. And Neo doesnt have guns.


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and as before, I say PROVE IT....PROVE Neo has precog. And Neo doesnt have guns.
in the second movie it is demonstrated where he knows every single move hte agents can make before they make it

and guns are a part of neos standard equipment

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in the second movie it is demonstrated where he knows every single move hte agents can make before they make it

and guns are a part of neos standard equipment


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first this is neo with his matrix powers

second, luke has no way of harnessing anything in the matrix to amplify his own powers, he only has his own as demonstrated in the movies

third, neo cant erase luke from the matrix
So now guns are part of Neo's standard equipment? Sounds like you are reaching. If guns are part of Neo's standard equipment, then Luke should have access to an X wing, blasters, and any other weapon he can get ahold of.

Standard equipment for Neo does NOT include guns, too late to add that.


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So now guns are part of Neo's standard equipment? Sounds like you are reaching. If guns are part of Neo's standard equipment, then Luke should have access to an X wing, blasters, and any other weapon he can get ahold of.

Standard equipment for Neo does NOT include guns, too late to add that.
neo has guns in all of his appearances save for his final fight with smith or peaceful visits to the matrix

last time a I checked luke isnt in posetion of blasters and/or x-wings...in fact I dont believe he likes to use them that much (blasters)

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neo has guns in all of his appearances save for his final fight with smith or peaceful visits to the matrix

last time a I checked luke isnt in posetion of blasters and/or x-wings...in fact I dont believe he likes to use them that much (blasters)
You are talking standard equipment, so let's get into it....

Why not include a Jedi Starfighter? Why not an X wing? The Jedi fly these ships, so why not allow them into the mix? Why not the Sun Crusher?

If we are REALLY gonna get ridiculous, why not allow Luke as many lightsabers as he wants, a hundred or even more, and allow him to force hurl them at Neo, all ablaze and waiting to cut him to pieces?


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude. WTF?


What about admitting that that is a feat instead of...you know dodging and making a lame joke?


"Dodging"? No.

Lame joke? Absolutely. laughing laughing laughing

I was at work at the time and I was training a new employee. No body's computer was broke, all servers were up, and no one needed their password reset so I figured I would "wtf pwn" a newb on the internetz. We had a good laugh about it. laughing

I think you are taking this a weee bit too seriously, though.

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in the second movie it is demonstrated where he knows every single move hte agents can make before they make it

and guns are a part of neos standard equipment


I can't remember if this was stated already...but...Neo can do that because they are plugged into the Matrix and they are programs running on the Matrix. Neo's mind acts like some sort of uber software inside of the matrix.

If Neo was to have all of his powers in a fight with Luke, it really wouldn't work because Neo's powers are dependent upon being "plugged into the matrix". So an alternate universe would have to be created that gave Neo all his powers and allowed Luke to retain his powers. That doesn't make much sense because Neo's powers are incumbent upon being in an interface that allows him to "see" the code and be one with the "Matrix OS". (I just made that phrase up...I know, bare with me.)

If Neo was the God of the Matrix as some tout him to be, a fight with ANY agent would end faster than it takes Bardock to eat a bowl of cereal. Neo isn't "wtf pwning" in the Matrix like that because his limitations are his mind. He can only manipulate the matrix so much. By manipulate, it means he is reprogramming the matrix on the fly with his mind.

I made that point to come to another one.

Neo is THE best "The One" to be born among humans. We know this because the Architect said that there were 5 others before him AND his realization in the word games came "faster" to Neo than the others.

Recall "that was faster than the others" -Architect.

We have definite proof that Neo posses an uber mind among humans.

However, it can be determined that Luke's mind far surpasses Neo's in ability. (Ability to learn new techniques mixed with the force as it relates to the mind.)

If they were to retain all their powers and fight in a separate universe away from their own, it would be an interesting fight indeed. Also, I wouldn't put it past NJO Luke to pull a "Reloaded" move like Neo did where he stopped all the bullets in mid air...shouldn't be a problem for him or any well trained force user.

Oh, Bardock, Luke wouldn't even have to touch Neo to send him flying faster and further than one of those punches that make your vagina wet. Neee...........Nars. no expression


I was all over the place with this post and I apologize for no organizing my thoughts.


Bards, that cereal comment was not intended to hurt your feelings: I am almost sure that I eat more each day than you do...so it was the pot calling the kettle black basically.


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Thing is they arent IN ther Matrix.


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