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I don't think Busiek ignored Supes weakness to magic either. Supes was banged up after the fight as he has holes in his suit etc. Magic is NOT a guanteed win over Superman. It just pisses him off cause it hurts.


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If you would read the comics you would know that know one is overrating Thor, it's just simply how he's displayed in his comics.


the same can be said of superman too though... erm


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the same can be said of superman too though... erm


know one stated Superman is overrated... no expression


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Count Nefaria caught the Mjolnir mid-swing also.

I'd like to see a scan of that. But granting what you just said, Count Nefaria absorbs power. Count Nefaria has no weakness to magic.

Just say these sentences out loud for me:

#1 I have a weakness to magic.
#2 Someone throws a magic hammer in my face.
#3 What will logically happen?

Apparently, the best that anybody can do to explain how Superman has no weakness to magic in that fight, is by pure cop-out. "Blunt magic objects don't hurt Superman." Or better yet, my favorite one: "Mjonir is mystical not magical, there's a difference." LOL. I'm not asking you to fully admit that the JLA/Avengers fight was utter crap. I've seen you defend that fight like it was your last can of Chef Boyardees. I just post to enlighten those who might be on the fence with that fight. It is utter garbage.


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The Mjolnir did hurt Superman as he had a bloody lip. A normal hammer would not do that.


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know one stated Superman is overrated... no expression


you do go to other threads right? stick out tongue


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you do go to other threads right? stick out tongue


Superman sometimes is overrated, but so far in this discussion he has not.


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The Mjolnir did hurt Superman as he had a bloody lip. A normal hammer would not do that.


Any Uru hammer thrown by a being as physically powerful as Thor would have at the very least busted his lip.


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Any Uru hammer thrown by a being as physically powerful as Thor would have at the very least busted his lip.
What did it do to Namor? He got right back up.

And it also knocked Superman through a few building.


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Superman sometimes is overrated, but so far in this discussion he has not.


overrated? well i never... stick out tongue

i do think supes is a match for thor and can win a fair amount of the battles though...


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The Mjolnir did hurt Superman as he had a bloody lip. A normal hammer would not do that.
What you're suggesting is that, a normal hammer thrown at a normal person would result in a bloody lip. Maybe I should throw a hammer in your face and you'd see what would really happen.

At this point, you're going to switch and object on the basis that, "No... Superman's durability isn't completely negated by a magic object..."

... and at this point I'm going to bring up the fact that Wonderwoman's circlet shredded Superman's throat. If his durability weren't fully negated, then it would have just nicked or scatched his throat, the same way it just gave him a bloody lip in JLA/Avengers. Face it. You can't explain it away, Busiek full out ignores Superman's weakness to magic because he was too damn lazy to figure out a nice fight that would have Superman deal with it.


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What did it do to Namor? He got right back up.

And it also knocked Superman through a few building.


Using low showings to degrade Thor eek!

What did Superman's mighty punched do to Batman?stick out tongue


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What you're suggesting is that, a normal hammer thrown at a normal person would result in a bloody lip. Maybe I should throw a hammer in your face and you'd see what would really happen.

At this point, you're going to switch and object on the basis that, "No... Superman's durability isn't completely negated by a magic object..."

... and at this point I'm going to bring up the fact that Wonderwoman's circlet shredded Superman's throat. If his durability weren't fully negated, then it would have just nicked or scatched his throat, the same way it just gave him a bloody lip in JLA/Avengers. Face it. You can't explain it away, Busiek full out ignores Superman's weakness to magic because he was too damn lazy to figure out a nice fight that would have Superman deal with it.
You know if the hammer had any sharp edges you would have a point. Thors hammer did hurt Superman, that's a fact.


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What you're suggesting is that, a normal hammer thrown at a normal person would result in a bloody lip. Maybe I should throw a hammer in your face and you'd see what would really happen.

At this point, you're going to switch and object on the basis that, "No... Superman's durability isn't completely negated by a magic object..."

... and at this point I'm going to bring up the fact that Wonderwoman's circlet shredded Superman's throat. If his durability weren't fully negated, then it would have just nicked or scatched his throat, the same way it just gave him a bloody lip in JLA/Avengers. Face it. You can't explain it away, Busiek full out ignores Superman's weakness to magic because he was too damn lazy to figure out a nice fight that would have Superman deal with it.


and batman survived a full strength assault by superman, when his head should have been removed...

the writers take license when they want to, it happens... doesnt make it right, but it happens...

and the tiara was god knows how sharp, the hammer is blunt, the damage is more spread out... theres a larger area to cover...


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You know if the hammer had any sharp edges you would have a point. Thors hammer did hurt Superman, that's a fact.


Slash someone with a knife...

Smash someone's face in with a sledge hammer...

Which appears to be more painful? which leaves more damage?


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What you're suggesting is that, a normal hammer thrown at a normal person would result in a bloody lip. Maybe I should throw a hammer in your face and you'd see what would really happen.

At this point, you're going to switch and object on the basis that, "No... Superman's durability isn't completely negated by a magic object..."

... and at this point I'm going to bring up the fact that Wonderwoman's circlet shredded Superman's throat. If his durability weren't fully negated, then it would have just nicked or scatched his throat, the same way it just gave him a bloody lip in JLA/Avengers. Face it. You can't explain it away, Busiek full out ignores Superman's weakness to magic because he was too damn lazy to figure out a nice fight that would have Superman deal with it.



you do realize that comics are always inconsistent right? different writers and different artists portray things differently and even the same writer and artist will sometimes portray things differently.

I mean, why can Thor beat a cosmic being one day and struggle against a pathetic avengers villain the next? writers don't write comics with consistency in mind so that we KMC debaters can have solid evidence to argue with, their SOLE goal is to make the comic interesting so that people will buy it, regardless of whether it contradicts previous things or not.


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Slash someone with a knife...

Smash someone's face in with a sledge hammer...

Which appears to be more painful? which leaves more damage?


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Slash someone with a knife...

Smash someone's face in with a sledge hammer...

Which appears to be more painful? which leaves more damage?


stab someone in the face, or hit it with a hammer... thats more accurate imo... erm


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stab someone in the face, or hit it with a hammer... thats more accurate imo... erm


She didn't stab him in his face, she slashed at his neck.

Answer the question please...

Slash someone with a knife...

Smash someone's face in with a sledge hammer...

Which appears to be more painful? which leaves more damage?


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You know if the hammer had any sharp edges you would have a point. Thors hammer did hurt Superman, that's a fact.
Don't allude me. You know exactly what I am referring to. I'm not arguing that a throw hammer to a person's face would cut their face. I'm arguing that it would crush their damn face in. If you want to volunteer, I'll demonstate by throwing a hammer at your face. Or I'm sure youtube.com has got an idiot demonstrating what would happen in a video. If I had a magic boxing glove and punched Superman in the mouth, yes... that would give him a bloody lip. If I threw a damn hammer in his face... no that would result in more than a bloodly lip.

Don't evade the point. Don't try to explain that a hammer is blunt and has a larger area to cover. Bullsh1t. If the result of a magic hammer being thrown in Superman's face was directly analagous to what happens to Superman in other instances:

1) Magic tiara shreds his throat.
2) Magic fire burns him.
3) Magic bonds bind him.

Then this would result and you know that logic screams this:

4) Magic hammer thrown in the face would bash his face in.

As the way you're arguing it, the only way a thrown magic hammer would only result in a bloody lip is if somehow his durability was not negated. In that case, the above situations would result:

1) Magic tiara nicks his throat.
2) Magic fire singes him.
3) Magic bonds slow him down.

We know that's not how it works. And the whole "blunt object has more area to cover" is garbage and you both are smart enough to know that. If you're not, then you won't have any problem letting me throw a rock hammer in your faces. Apparently, you believe it will only result in a bloody lip.


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