Rechecked the fight and your right, he DID attempt to BFR Nefaria. And it was a pretty impressive display. Thor opened up a portal which Count Nefaria couldn't even resist, Lucky for him he happened to be right next to a Skyscraper which he chucked on Thor.
Another thing a Pisless/Cisless Thor is capable of and has even displayed against Superman types.
Also Thor was knocked down but not knocked out in that fight. And I wouldn't say he held back against Count N the way he did against Gladiator, but he didn't come close to unleashing his most lethal attacks, Anti-Force combined with the power of a thousand worlds (which would destroy the entire area they were in) and/or godblast (which would certainly kill the Count).
Thor will only unleash his full power like that if there are no civilians around and the Avengers are all a safe distant away as well, and when Thor is willing to Kill. The only lethal attack he can do without harming others in close proximity and without going for the kill is his BFR Potral which very nearly defeated the Count. He couldn't resist it, and was lucky he was right next to a Skyscraper to chuck at him.
So with the Avengers there and Thor unable to unleash his most destructive powers, there's no shame in Thor defeating the Count with aid from the Avengers under those circumstances. They succeeded, but in cases like The Destroyer, where the Avengers fail with Thor's help, Thor will then unleash his full power, giving the Avengers room to take cover and get civilians out of the way.
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Scans of Thor using any of the aforementioned abilities without Mjolnir provided by Darth Power.
NONE .
Desperation in the form of lying about MY claims by Darth Power.
LOTS .
Let us take a look.
Right so now the likes of Teleportation and Transmutation are 95% of Thor's power, even as your about to claim that Thor ALWAYS BRAWLS.
Show me where I've claimed that TELEPORTATION AND TRANSMUTATION alone are 95% of Thor's power .
Do so and I will readily acknowledge Thor wins this matchup.
Don't obfuscate, lie, or avoid the issue.
SHOW THE POST(S)
"Thor always brawls"
You're really terrible at debating.
Thor always brawls FIRST /B]. First, being the operative word. It is a hallmark of the character. Otherwise his battles with the Hulk and various other characters would be entirely different than the established canon.
[B]"Going all out"- THOR. WON'T. GET. THE. CHANCE. TO. GO. ALL. OUT.
I'll humor you.
Taking off Thor's CIS which would have him seek to brawl with Clark first.
1) Godblast- The most powerful attack.
Too slow.
At this point you'll deny this too.
2) Energy draining/Soul draining- Superman has shown to be highly resistant against these attacks. If Thor begins the process why wouldn't Superman be able to knock Mjolnir away from him the way Gladiator did?
Feel free to actually ANSWER my questions at any time.
No, his best feat is reacting, moving and throwing a superhuman knock out punch in microseconds.
So he can clearly just react and shoot a lot faster than that.
Planet Busting punches take energy/power. So it's for you to prove he can lay a Dozen of them in less time than Thor can react. If he does something akin to that in even a few nanoseconds and they are clearly his Uber Powerful Planet Busting punches then I'll concede the point.
Not really. He punched once in "few microseconds", not in less than a microsecond. Its his best feat to date. Iron Fist is faster than him and he is a street leveler by his less than microsecond feat.
Who says it needs several planet busting punches to beat Thor? Show me him tanking even a single planet busting punch in a nanosecond or even taking a planet busting punch directly. As it is, Superman has oneshotted people who can tank Supernovas and shit.
Just posted the scans. Electric Superman got beat the shit out of him. Then there is Superman blitzing Strange Visitor who had the same powers as Electric Superman.
I think it's clear to everyone who is the desperate one here, as well as the clear Troll.
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I don't think you even conprehend the conversation we're having. Your trying to pretend you win something if I don't post scans of Thor teleporting without Mjolnir. Since I never claimed he could, you're just looking like an idiot harping on about it.
You claimed Thor without Mjolnir loses 95% of his offensive and defensive powers. Do I need to post your quote?
Stop acting like Thor is useless without Mjolnir.
Stop acting like it's a fact Thor will even be separated from Mjolnir in a fight.
LOL The true signs of desperation. When you know your losing just use the line "you're terrible at this.."
Out of the 2 of us your the one Trolling me, not the other way around.
Really? So he brawled here against Thanos before Unleashing his full power right?:
He also went in full power first throwing Mjolnir at The Destroyer in one fight.
In fact, what was the first thing he did against Count Nefaria?:
Yep he threw Mjolnir first.
I can't even count the times he begins a fight like that, and many times with an energy blast.
So are you going to admit now that you either:
a) never actually read Thor comics, or
b) are just purposefully lowballing and trolling.
Also the point you also don't seem to get through that thick skull of your bringing up fighting "in character" is that Superman "in character" isn't going to go for a full on Speed Blitz right from the onset of the fight.
Yeah you keep repeating that nonesense.
I've already been having in depth discussions on the whole speed thing with others here. You can read those conversations and educate yourself.
It takes a few seconds. But the Anti-Force blast is Instantaneous. As are his Irresistable portals.
But even without the portals he can unleash the Anti-Force Blast, with Magical Lightning blasts, begin unleashing Omni-Blasts of a Thousand Hurricanes and Magical Lightning attacks, and at some point Supes will likely be down or dazed for a few seconds, and that's all Thor needs.
Same as above.
I have addressed EVERY SINGLE ONE of your points now, while you continue trolling around mine just saying "LOOOK SUPERMAN ANALOGUE HURT THOR," even though many of the writers of those very fights say Thor would beat Superman in a fight LOL.. In fact Jurgens even said "No WAY Superman could take Thor!"
I can't believe you posted that fight. Isn't that the same fight where Superman struggled catching her going shy of above the speed of sound? What's the issue number?
You stated that it was said that Superman Blue was slower. Where was that said? And that wasn't a blitz. He tied her up while she was still on the ground stunned.
ABHI...Superman clearly has the speed edge here and anyone denying it is half retarded. I honestly believe he could land the first five hits before Thor got off an attack but you have plenty of Superman speed showings to use, so why use scans for a different Superman as an argument? You clearly have the advantage when it comes to Superman speed vs Thor reaction, why not take advantage of that instead of using debatable scans? Doesn't make sense.
Sentry and the Void are the same character as is the Death Seed Sentry. Quit distancing yourself from the power of the one character. As usual you want to ignore the evidence and the clear character that is the Sentry in all his glory.
Leave the trash talk outside of comic book characters in the movie forum. Show some restraint and act mature for a change here.
Accept the Sentry in all his glory but quit trying to exclude evidence.
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He had extenuating circumstances leading to those incarnations.
Void appears depending on the amount of good he does, so how is void appearing here? is he taking extra serum? is he dead and cleansed of his void persona and his agarophobia?
So I am guessing you are backing down again, right?
And lol at trash talk. I really wish I lived in Ohio to pay you a friendly visit maybe after the beating I will give you, then We could become friends
No, he is capable of all of those abilities himself just depending on his mindset.
We look at the entire history of the character and his showings. I won't debate a character you can ignore. We have seen the Void act as the Sentry with lethal force. I'd beat you within an inch of your life.
Now you've incurred the wrath of the Pennsylvanian Lizard. He is angry so let us keep the challenge talk to the movie versus off topic.
Good thing is, we know your opinion isn't supported by the comic.
He reacted in a microsecond. That's faster than Thor.
Are you blind or something?
I have. I've also seen Thor nearly dead just by the shockwaves of a planet destroying missile and fleeing from at least three planetary explosions that were fatal for him.
So has everyone else in top tier category. That means little.
Spider-man has taken attacks from planet busters too. So?
So I see, you have no comprehension of how punching work. Can Superman punch Thor twelve times in an hour? Yes or No.
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