Who's the champ?
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Wolverine
17
60.71%
Blade
10
35.71%
I dont care
1
3.57%
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Mindset
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Seriously how many different people have written Blade comics?
Do they try to confuse the readers?
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Apr 19th, 2008 03:31 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
The Dracula fight I was referencing was way before Logan ever got served by him. Blade still did way better than Logan ever has and Logan had X-Men backing him up.
The hell are you talking about Wolverine was the only person attacking Dracula when he went after him. Haven't seen their older fight so I can't say.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
And yea, I believe Blade to be the faster of the two hence my comments on him pulling the vial out and putting it to Logan's neck and giving him the option. Blade paid the debt back to him by sparring his life.
Yeah I know you believe it, I just question why. Since you know, Wolverine has equivalent and superior feats of speed, and Wolverine was owning Blade speed wise in that fight as well.
Blade didn't spare Logan's life....
quote: (post ) Originally posted by jinzin
Blade already had him measured.
He had a dossier on Logan provided to him by SHIELD, written up by friggin Fury... Yeah.. MEASURED.
He could have slashed his throat or gut huh?
Yeah because he was so skilled and so fast he landed the first atta-..doh! No he didn't.
No it's because he's so proficient with swordsmanship that he didn't immediately lose control of his bl-..Doh! Yes he did.
So.. Outside the realm of your fanboy delusions... How was he gonna manage to do that again?
Again, you're giving Blade the benefit of the doubt to say that Blade could have downed Wolverine from the start... Besides your own fanboy interpretation and bias do you have any evidence whatsoever to prove that he not only could, but is even capable of as much?
What was he going to do? Throw the vile at Wolverine? The guy who dices rockets, darts, arrows, and needles out of the air and sees bullets pass by him in slow motion?
You think Blade would have any more luck against Wolverine than Cap did with his shield throw, or that Cyclops did with his eye beams? Both accounts when Wolverine had his back turned to them?.....
What am I asking for? Of course you do, because you like Blade and that's enough isn't it?
Or.... Was he going to run up to Wolverine and inject it into his neck? Funny that, because if that was going to be the strategy, he had that same opportunity with his sword. A longer, more proficient offensive weapon actually capable of defense as well which Blade is most familiar with, and even with that AND a reach advantage Logan landed two warning slices before he was even able to try and block, and Blade started that attack. So why would he fair better with a vile than he did with his sword? Oh that's right because you like Blade and that's enough.
Considering that Blade went for the vile attack and was successful. What then?
Again, how do you know that Wolverine's HF wouldn't completely negate the effects anyways? He had a knockdown drag out fight with a werewolf and he didn't turn into one of them. In fact an organization bent on turning citizens and thus Wolverine into a werewolf couldn't do it with werewolf blood or genetic manipulation, the best result they got out of that was reverting his mentality.... Or how about his fight with Ba'al, a demon vampire God; didn't turn then. When Dracula did turn him it was in the 70's... Yeah, after Fatal Attractions? Xavier outright states that wounds which would have been FATAL before are now only a MOMENTARY annoyance. Wolverine being bitten by Dracula didn't even rank as a fatal attack, it stands to reason that it doesn't even range into the ranks of momentary annoyances...
Then we've got Wolverine's healing factor counteracting symbiotic hosting attempts and him completely no selling the Brood several times, something Ghost Rider couldn't even dowith his mystical healing abilities. But a little vile from Blade'll do the trick right? Because there's so much evidence to support it right? Or is it because you like Blade.. and that's enough.
Considering we give Blade the benefit of the doubt that he did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned... What now? Again we have two different universes where a vampiric Wolverine has taken over Marvel Earth, killing Dracula, turning Juggernaught, one shotting Sym, and disarming a Strange/Punisher hybrid. Dracula even recognizes that Wolverine immediately picked up on vampire tricks that took him eons to learn like shapeshifting and misting out. But Blade turning him into a vampire will be a good choice, effective, and a sure win for Blade right? Why? Is it because a Vampiric Wolverine's shown to be weak and powerless to the likes of Blade? Nah.... Can't be... Maybe it's......Because you like Blade, and that's enough.
Finally if we're to put into consideration that Blade did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned, BUT he didn't turn into the hardcore uber vamp that he did in other universes and was just some lowly vampire, I suppose we're to think that Blade would then be able to draw out a stake and ace him on the spot because Blade said he could right? I mean, ignoring the fact that Wolverine just railed through everything he had without a problem.... I suppose we're supposed to also believe as a vampire Wolverine might lose his sense of skill and thus leave him open to Blade's attacks from there on.... Because it's not like we've seen a similar situation with a brainless Wolverine railing through Cap (also Blades physical equal if not superior as well as a far better h2h combatant) who was trying to dish out all he had right? I suppose we're left to believe that Wolverine totally would have been screwed if Blade was going for the kill. And is that due to the sheer mountain of volumes of overwhelming evidence to support the premise?.... No... It's because you like Blade.. and that's enough.
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Apr 19th, 2008 03:32 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Creshosk
Was he immune to vampire bites when a vampire bite gave him more powers?
He was immune to normal bites. Morbius isn't a normal vampire.quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
So you have scans that blade was just a regular human before Morbius bite?
No scans, no scanner. Blade physically was a normal human but he was immune to bites and could sense supernatural.
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Apr 19th, 2008 03:32 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
He was immune to normal bites. Morbius isn't a normal vampire. No scans, no scanner. Blade physically was a normal human but he was immune to bites and could sense supernatural.
actaully he was immune to vampire bites period.
Blade is the most inconsistent person ever. He been stated as being born a vampire on a number of occassions he also been stated as beeing bitten and turn into one even thought he immune to vampire bites.
he makes no senses.
Apr 19th, 2008 03:37 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully he was immune to vampire bites period.
Blade is the most inconsistent person ever. He been stated as being born a vampire on a number of occassions he also been stated as beeing bitten and turn into one even thought he immune to vampire bites.
he makes no senses.
I have already said that. But Morbius is a unique vampire. His bite changed Blade into a daywalker supposedly.
Marvel needs to clear this up though. I don't really care either way on how or when he got his powers as long as he has them.
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Apr 19th, 2008 03:42 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
I have already said that. But Morbius is a unique vampire. His bite changed Blade into a daywalker supposedly.
ect that completely controdicts other issues not to mention it was vampire bites period. not only normal ones lol.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
Marvel needs to clear this up though. I don't really care either way on how or when he got his powers as long as he has them.
Lol your from comic xtreme arnt you.
Apr 19th, 2008 03:46 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
ect that completely controdicts other issues not to mention it was vampire bites period. not only normal ones lol.
Lol your from comic xtreme arnt you.
One time Logan gets put down by a bullet through the eye and the next he's healing from a skeleton. See where I'm going here?
And I've never heard of comic extreme.
BTW what are you arguing here?
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Apr 19th, 2008 03:51 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
most evidence points to blade and wolverine being even in that fight (even if neither side was trying that hard)
What fight were you looking at? Because it clearly not the same fight I read in which Blade never once could have killed wolverine, but Wolverine could have killed Blade a number of times through out the fight.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
1. The clawless punch -, under this writer wolverine has used a clawless punch on enemies that he intended to kill, the reason is beyond me
Not the same thing at all. Wolverine wanted to drag the fight out to beat the guy into the ground and then Kill him. Actually your own evidences disprove your own argument, because when Logan finally decided to kill him he used his claws.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
3. strength - officially wolverine has peak human strength while blade is about a ton more or less, however strength is arguable
This is false. Logan has never been stated as a peak-human on panel in a comic.
He has however been stated as
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?i...strengthuq7.jpg
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the main thing bpeople seem to have a problem with is blades skill mainly because he doesn't go up against heroes that much he has had a lot of training, I would like some one to explain why wolverine is so much more skilled other than he has faught with other heroes
Blade has no skill feats of any sort vs highly skilled hero’s, Logan does.
Also if we simply go by Blade training and experiences that hurts him even more, because Logan completely dwarfs him in both respected area’s. Meaning Logan with out a doubt is the more skilled combatant with greater training and experiences.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
also the writer for both series has blade say theyre even
It called hyperbole nothing more nothing less. It Blade talking him self up, that’s all. It means nothing and clearly Blade not as skilled, because he was getting man handled.
Apr 19th, 2008 03:54 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
One time Logan gets put down by a bullet through the eye and the next he's healing from a skeleton. See where I'm going here?
Thats not the same thing. Ones PIS event and means nothing sinces if the writer can not get a skeleton structure right then there no way you can rely on him getting Logans healing factor correct. Not to mention ones pre down graded other is post down grade.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
And I've never heard of comic extreme.
BTW what are you arguing here?
the web sight...............comicxtreme...............come on I know you back blade there.............
Apr 19th, 2008 03:57 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thats not the same thing. Ones PIS event and means nothing sinces if the writer can not get a skeleton structure right then there no way you can rely on him getting Logans healing factor correct. Not to mention ones pre down graded other is post down grade.
the web sight...............comicxtreme...............come on I know you back blade there.............
Well I don't know what else to say other than I'm not him. And I've never been to that site.
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Apr 19th, 2008 03:59 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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wierd you debate similarly
Apr 19th, 2008 04:01 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
wierd you debate similarly
It's a big scary internet out there.
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Apr 19th, 2008 04:03 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
One time Logan gets put down by a bullet through the eye and the next he's healing from a skeleton. See where I'm going here?
And I've never heard of comic extreme.
BTW what are you arguing here?
One example of PIS and one example of something that's happened several times (three) is supposed to be more contradictory than this "We don't even know what his origin is"?
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Apr 19th, 2008 04:16 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jinzin
The hell are you talking about Wolverine was the only person attacking Dracula when he went after him. Haven't seen their older fight so I can't say.
Yeah I know you believe it, I just question why. Since you know, Wolverine has equivalent and superior feats of speed, and Wolverine was owning Blade speed wise in that fight as well.
Blade didn't spare Logan's life....
Well Dracula served Logan way faster and easier than he did to Blade.
Blade has just as good as speed feats as Logan does. In fact Blade's speed is what put Logan in that rather tight situation. Blade owed Logan one and he repaid him by sparring his life.
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Apr 19th, 2008 04:56 AM
Mindset
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Turning Logan into a vampire, if that would have even been possible, would not have killed Logan. Killed in the sense that he would be permanently incapacitated.
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Apr 19th, 2008 05:00 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
Turning Logan into a vampire, if that would have even been possible, would not have killed Logan. Killed in the sense that he would be permanently incapacitated.
That's not what would have killed him. The flash grenade or maybe a garlic filled silver bullet into the blood stream would finish him. Maybe even a anti-coagulant.
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Apr 19th, 2008 05:03 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
That's not what would have killed him. The flash grenade or maybe a garlic filled silver bullet into the blood stream would finish him. Maybe even a anti-coagulant.
Because the adamantium poisoning has done wonders to kill him, or all the other poisons he's dealt with...
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Apr 19th, 2008 05:12 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Creshosk
Because the adamantium poisoning has done wonders to kill him, or all the other poisons he's dealt with...
Logan will inherit the weaknesses also.
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Apr 19th, 2008 05:13 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade has just as good as speed feats as Logan does. In fact Blade's speed is what put Logan in that rather tight situation. Blade owed Logan one and he repaid him by sparring his life.
Were the hell do you come up with this crap? Logan the one who pinned blade to the ground. Blade was at Logan’s mercy.
Blade spared Logan his life? What the **** are you talking about? Logan could have killed Blade anytime he wished. Blades only option was to uses the vile and hope it works and then stab Logan with a stake before Logan killed him…………which would have been dam near impossible for blade to do. Any one with haft a brain knows this.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by YFZ 350
That's not what would have killed him. The flash grenade or maybe a garlic filled silver bullet into the blood stream would finish him. Maybe even a anti-coagulant.
…………all this before Logan simply stabbed him or popped his claws………..come on man stop being an fing moron. Your entire argument is ridiculous and filled with unbelievable and idiotic bias
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Apr 19th, 2008 05:13 AM
YFZ 350
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
Any one with haft a brain knows this.
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Apr 19th, 2008 05:15 AM
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