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Calzaghe is the worst boxer on the planet.

British fans should be ashamed to have that fraud represent them.


Let the games begin.


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I'm not ashamed, cos he doesn't represent me. He's just from Britain.

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hmm I have generally been on the side of Calzaghe being over rated. But I mean he deserves respect he has had a very good career.


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I'm not ashamed, cos he doesn't represent me. He's just from Britain.

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good logic but capt conscience likes to play the country vs country card. shame


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Can't really argue with his record


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The guy has fought nothing but bums. He waited until B-Hop required viagra to fight him when he could have fought him five years ago and still did not look impressive. I'm with Floyd Mayweather Sr. who said Calzaghe can't spell "Box". He is just trash as a fighter. And now his b!tchass wants to fight another old timer in Roy Jones Jr. Calzaghe is a joke of a fighter with his pitypat punches. I'm telling you right now Glen Johson would knock that fool in to next sunday and he is just an above average Lightheavy weight. Records don't mean anything when you have been fighting nothing but Tomato Cans for 90% of your career.


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The guy has fought nothing but bums. He waited until B-Hop required viagra to fight him when he could have fought him five years ago and still did not look impressive. I'm with Floyd Mayweather Sr. who said Calzaghe can't spell "Box". He is just trash as a fighter. And now his b!tchass wants to fight another old timer in Roy Jones Jr. Calzaghe is a joke of a fighter with his pitypat punches. I'm telling you right now Glen Johson would knock that fool in to next sunday and he is just an above average Lightheavy weight. Records don't mean anything when you have been fighting nothing but Tomato Cans for 90% of your career.


so Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins are bums?....ummm...ok

i notice they're always bums AFTER the fight...before the fight they're usually the business

but i agree...he shouldn't fight Jones Jnr....waste of time


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so Kessler, Lacy and Hopkins are bums?....ummm...ok

i notice they're always bums AFTER the fight...before the fight they're usually the business

but i agree...he shouldn't fight Jones Jnr....waste of time


Hopkins is way past it. If he would have jought Calslappy when he was 37 he would have won a clear UD or would have stopped him.

Kessler is a good B level level fighter but will never be great because he lacks a killer instinct.

Lacy was and still is an overated bum.


Who has has Zaghe fought that is viable besides Kessler? I'm talking about rated people in their Primes. Please take your personal bias out of this, because it's clear as day how garbage Calzaghe is. Dare I say that I actually give Hatton more credit than Zaghe.


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He should fight Chad Dawson


He is SCARED to fight Dawson.


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good logic but capt conscience likes to play the country vs country card. shame


You guys have a hand full of boxers that come out of your country and anytime one them makes little noise all you see is the British going happy go lucky for these guys. All I'm stating is that this guy in perticular guy is a fraud and the British fans should abandon him.


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smart fighter. fight bums, and make good money.

instead of fight top competition, lose, get hurt, lose pride, make good money.


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You guys have a hand full of boxers that come out of your country and anytime one them makes little noise all you see is the British going happy go lucky for these guys. All I'm stating is that this guy in perticular guy is a fraud and the British fans should abandon him.


Is there a reason you're trying to bait people with your posts? Or is that just how you operate? Because it's very transparent and pretty tasteless. This thread should be closed because it's essentially a troll thread anyway....you could've brought this up in the boxing thread instead of trying to pitifully cause a stir by insulting him in the thread.

erm

Anyway, I repoted the first post and asked that this be closed. With luck, one of the globals will agree.


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Is there a reason you're trying to bait people with your posts? Or is that just how you operate? Because it's very transparent and pretty tasteless. This thread should be closed because it's essentially a troll thread anyway....you could've brought this up in the boxing thread instead of trying to pitifully cause a stir by insulting him in the thread.

erm

Anyway, I repoted the first post and asked that this be closed. With luck, one of the globals will agree.


Thanks footing repotingme, there chief. I made it a thread because I chose to and if the thread gets closed, then so be it. I haven't called anybody on this forum out of there names and have only expressed my OPINION as to why Calfaggy sucks as boxer. You on the other hand are trying to change the subject of the thread in which case you are the TROLL and are trying to bait me into a back and forth exchange. In other words defend Calzaghe or agree with me if not get lost.......


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Hopkins is way past it. If he would have jought Calslappy when he was 37 he would have won a clear UD or would have stopped him.

Kessler is a good B level level fighter but will never be great because he lacks a killer instinct.

Lacy was and still is an overated bum.


Who has has Zaghe fought that is viable besides Kessler? I'm talking about rated people in their Primes. Please take your personal bias out of this, because it's clear as day how garbage Calzaghe is. Dare I say that I actually give Hatton more credit than Zaghe.


how many times must you keep saying "personal bias"...Hatton was English...Calzaghe is Welsh...i am Scottish...it's the equivalent of me saying you are bias towards a fighter because he's mexican or canadian...

you predicted another fight wrongly and you're bitter about it...you really should give up on it

but he probably will fight Jones...i dont know why he'd bother for his last fight...it should be Tarver or Dawson at light heavy or Pavlik or Taylor at super middle

Jones is still ranked reasonably high in all boxing organisation lists but he's a spent force and is also getting over the hill...but then most of the champions are older than what is considered "prime"...Tarver is 40...Bute is 28...Andrade is 29....very few champs are around 24-25...

says volumes about the state of boxing though

fact is though...you dont become undisputed champion by fighting bums...you dont hold onto a title that you got from Chris Eubank (one of the best fighters ever in his weight) for 10 years by being a bum

but still...if all the US boxing gyms can produce is bums...then i guess that's who you fight


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how many times must you keep saying "personal bias"...Hatton was English...Calzaghe is Welsh...i am Scottish...it's the equivalent of me saying you are bias towards a fighter because he's mexican or canadian...

you predicted another fight wrongly and you're bitter about it...you really should give up on it

but he probably will fight Jones...i dont know why he'd bother for his last fight...it should be Tarver or Dawson at light heavy or Pavlik or Taylor at super middle

Jones is still ranked reasonably high in all boxing organisation lists but he's a spent force and is also getting over the hill...but then most of the champions are older than what is considered "prime"...Tarver is 40...Bute is 28...Andrade is 29....very few champs are around 24-25...

says volumes about the state of boxing though

fact is though...you dont become undisputed champion by fighting bums...you dont hold onto a title that you got from Chris Eubank (one of the best fighters ever in his weight) for 10 years by being a bum

but still...if all the US boxing gyms can produce is bums...then i guess that's who you fight


I'm not bitter at all about the fight. It was as split decision that went the other way. No big deal at all. Calzaghe let a man that was 43 years old and clearly way past his prime beat him up. After the fight B-Hop didn't have one bruise to say that he fought 12 rounds with top ten guy. Calzaghe should be ashamed by his perfomance. And fact is this YOU in pertucular to show personal bias to fighters from that part of the world regardless of the their respective nationalities. That fact has been established. B-Hop landed the cleaner and most effective blows that night and that was evidenced by Slappies face after the fight. Now I could see how a judge can score the fight to Calzaghe just based on activity (so I'm not disputing the decision). What I am saying is if he fight a skilled lightheavy that still has fresh legs and can go a full 12 rounds(unlike B-Hop) he will definitely lose. I mean just imagine the kind of beating Calzaghe would recieve at the hand of Chad Dawson or Glen Johson.


And to answer your question the reason why he doesn't want to fight any of the guys I mentioned is because he does not care about fighting the best opposition he only cares about taking reasonably safe fights against big names so he can retire undefeated. I will say it again Calzaghe is not real fighter. He is fraud plain and simple.


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how many times must you keep saying "personal bias"...Hatton was English...Calzaghe is Welsh...i am Scottish...it's the equivalent of me saying you are bias towards a fighter because he's mexican or canadian...

you predicted another fight wrongly and you're bitter about it...you really should give up on it

but he probably will fight Jones...i dont know why he'd bother for his last fight...it should be Tarver or Dawson at light heavy or Pavlik or Taylor at super middle

Jones is still ranked reasonably high in all boxing organisation lists but he's a spent force and is also getting over the hill...but then most of the champions are older than what is considered "prime"...Tarver is 40...Bute is 28...Andrade is 29....very few champs are around 24-25...

says volumes about the state of boxing though

fact is though...you dont become undisputed champion by fighting bums...you dont hold onto a title that you got from Chris Eubank (one of the best fighters ever in his weight) for 10 years by being a bum

but still...if all the US boxing gyms can produce is bums...then i guess that's who you fight


late twenties to early thirties is generally considered a boxers prime. 24-25 the boxers are generally still learning the craft unless they started at a very early age or have crazy physical attributes that give them some kind of advantage over there opponents.

Ok you still haven't named a world renouned fighther that was in their prime and legitimate threat to his title beside Kessler and B-Hop. That translates to 90% of his opposition being BUMS.


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You guys have a hand full of boxers that come out of your country and anytime one them makes little noise all you see is the British going happy go lucky for these guys. All I'm stating is that this guy in perticular guy is a fraud and the British fans should abandon him.


How do you fraud a ten year undefeated streak?

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I'm not bitter at all about the fight. It was as split decision that went the other way. No big deal at all. Calzaghe let a man that was 43 years old and clearly way past his prime beat him up. After the fight B-Hop didn't have one bruise to say that he fought 12 rounds with top ten guy. Calzaghe should be ashamed by his perfomance. And fact is this YOU in pertucular to show personal bias to fighters from that part of the world regardless of the their respective nationalities. That fact has been established. B-Hop landed the cleaner and most effective blows that night and that was evidenced by Slappies face after the fight. Now I could see how a judge can score the fight to Calzaghe just based on activity (so I'm not disputing the decision). What I am saying is if he fight a skilled lightheavy that still has fresh legs and can go a full 12 rounds(unlike B-Hop) he will definitely lose. I mean just imagine the kind of beating Calzaghe would recieve at the hand of Chad Dawson or Glen Johson.


And to answer your question the reason why he doesn't want to fight any of the guys I mentioned is because he does not care about fighting the best opposition he only cares about taking reasonably safe fights against big names so he can retire undefeated. I will say it again Calzaghe is not real fighter. He is fraud plain and simple.


it was a split and the judge who scored it in hopkins' favour was wildly out compared to the other 2 judges and not one commentator knew how he managed to score it the way he did...it should have been unanimous and you know it

there's no denying calzaghe is also getting on in years but he never showed signs of being tired in that fight...which for him is just as well because he needs to last the distance because he knows he's not the hardest hitter in the world...he wins on number and accuracy of punches

but yeah you're right in saying hopkins couldn't last 12...

still....he's a candidate for the boxing hall of fame (Hopkins)...and under what actions?...because he beat del la hoya and Tarver...anyone else of any note he's come up against (Taylor twice, Roy Jones jnr when he WAS in his prime)...he's been beaten...unlike Calzaghe

you cite that Calzaghe hasn't fought anyone of note...well who has Chad Dawson fought?....absolutely nobody worth mentioning...at all

as for him losing to a "fresh" light heavy in 12 rounds...well...not on number and accuracy of punches he wont...and he's only ever been floored twice in his career so his chin is good thus it's unlikely he'll get knocked out

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Ok you still haven't named a world renouned fighther that was in their prime and legitimate threat to his title beside Kessler and B-Hop. That translates to 90% of his opposition being BUMS.



that's what fighters do though...every single one of them...you dont come into the pro ranks and fights top ranking contenders from the off...you have to fight journeymen...Calzaghe never once looked like losing to any of them...unlike hopkins who got beat in his 1st pro fight by Clinton Mitchell....

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And fact is this YOU in pertucular to show personal bias to fighters from that part of the world regardless of the their respective nationalities.


your continual repetition of this statement doesn't make it true...and even if it were it still wouldn't give any of your other claims any legitimacy

but you're right...Calzaghe should have been ashamed by his performance against hopkins...he didn't fight well...and he still won


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