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Strangelove
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Even if that were true, they would have been arrested for indecent exposure or something to that effect, not "crimes against nature" (i.e. sodomy)

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Police on Saturday charged two West Raleigh, North Carolina men with a "crime against nature" for having sex early that morning. Each faces up to two years in prison if convicted of the Class I felony.

Crime against nature? Even for NorthCarolina I find that a little hard to believe.

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i almost wish i was a lesbian and living in california.

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ok, but gays are equally allowed to marry someone of the other sex.

Prior to 1963, it was argued that black and white Americans had equal marriage rights; a black person could marry a black person, and a white person could marry a white person, they just could not marry one another.

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Crime against nature? Even for NorthCarolina I find that a little hard to believe.

Police Charge Pair With "Crime Against Nature"

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Crime against nature? Even for NorthCarolina I find that a little hard to believe.

"******, don't be here when the sun goes down."

-A sign on disply in my childhood North Carolina hometown. Only done away with in the late '80s-

Especially for North Carolina, it's possible.

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ok, but gays are equally allowed to marry someone of the other sex.

I'll assmume that was a statement made in jest. Unless you choose to ignore the reality between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

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I'll assmume that was a statement made in jest. Unless you choose to ignore the reality between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

I ask this because I'm curious, not to stir up trouble: What do you think of men who have sex with other men, but claim not to "want" men?

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ok, but gays are equally allowed to marry someone of the other sex.

That's a disgusting thing to say.

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I ask this because I'm curious, not to stir up trouble: What do you think of men who have sex with other men, but claim not to "want" men?

They're odd.

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I ask this because I'm curious, not to stir up trouble: What do you think of men who have sex with other men, but claim not to "want" men?

No one does anything they don't want. Or realize for themelves.

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Police Charge Pair With "Crime Against Nature"

Wow, that's actually worse than you made it sound.

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That's a disgusting thing to say.

Nah, just a correct one. I have stated on several occasions that this fight is not about equal rights for gays. As they exist. If anything it is a fight for equal rights between men and women. Feminists should be all over it, sadly, most are selfish, blind dykes.

Go libertarians.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Prior to 1963, it was argued that black and white Americans had equal marriage rights; a black person could marry a black person, and a white person could marry a white person, they just could not marry one another.

yes it was. I initially pointed to legal inter-racial marriage as legal precedence supporting gay marriage.

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I'll assmume that was a statement made in jest. Unless you choose to ignore the reality between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

no...

don't get me wrong, I support gay marriage. However, the issue isn't equality, but rather of definition.

if marriage is legally defined as between a man and a woman, then everyone has equal rights. Yes, the legal definition can cause social inequalities, but the law is being equally applied to everyone.

The liberty and pursuit of happiness point, I conceded, probably is a valid argument for changing the legal definition of marriage, however, as I said earlier, marriage has historically been about the trade and oppression of women and other family alliance/trade issues. There is more of a historical precedence for marriage as man and woman, though modern interpretations of free choice and people marrying for love, probably change that, especially given that whites and blacks can marry now.

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That's a disgusting thing to say.

well, this is an unacceptable outrage and other such hyperbole

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If anything it is a fight for equal rights between men and women. Feminists should be all over it

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My personal opinion is that there should be no government involvement in marriage, so if you want to marry your sister or a car or a tree, i couldn't care less

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Go libertarians.

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Calif. Supreme Court rejects gay marriage ban
Constitutional initiative drive under way in state to restrict unions

SAN FRANCISCO - The California Supreme Court has overturned a ban on gay marriage, paving the way for California to become the second state where gay and lesbian residents can marry. [end snip]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24649689

This is good news for Equal Rights. Maybe Utah or Texas will be next.

Excellent news, but I don't think we should celebrate yet, as the law will likely be overturned.

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Excellent news, but I don't think we should celebrate yet, as the law will likely be overturned.

True, but I believe Arnold said he would abide, so it's looking very good so far.

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True, but I believe Arnold said he would abide, so it's looking very good so far.

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Nah, just a correct one. I have stated on several occasions that this fight is not about equal rights for gays. As they exist. If anything it is a fight for equal rights between men and women.

how, exactly?

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yeah, I don't get that one either.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, just a correct one. I have stated on several occasions that this fight is not about equal rights for gays. As they exist. If anything it is a fight for equal rights between men and women. Feminists should be all over it, sadly, most are selfish, blind dykes.

Go libertarians.

We went over this already, I think (I know) you were proven wrong, as it is about equal rights for gays.

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We went over this already, I think (I know) you were proven wrong, as it is about equal rights for gays.

Haha. Right.

It really is not though.

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how, exactly?

Gay men have the exact same rights as straight men.

Gay women have the exact same rights as straight women.

Yes, they can't marry who they would prefer to marry. And, yes, that is bad and should be changed. But it is not about gay people being treated equal to straight people. It's about rights for everyone or, as I said, equal rights between men and women. It's really an easy concept.

I understand that what DK is going to say is that they are not equal because they can't marry who they want, and I get that, I am just saying that gays and straights of the same gender do have the same rights and lack thereof, even though the lack hurts only one sexuality, really.

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Haha. Right.

It really is not though.

Gay men have the exact same rights as straight men.

Gay women have the exact same rights as straight women.

Yes, they can't marry who they would prefer to marry. And, yes, that is bad and should be changed. But it is not about gay people being treated equal to straight people. It's about rights for everyone or, as I said, equal rights between men and women. It's really an easy concept.

I understand that what DK is going to say is that they are not equal because they can't marry who they want, and I get that, I am just saying that gays and straights of the same gender do have the same rights and lack thereof, even though the lack hurts only one sexuality, really.

Interesting perspective.

Makes sense. I am trying but I can't think of why your statement is wrong. I believe that's what inimalist was getting earlier.

Maybe from the perspective of a homosexual, they NOT have equal rights. Relative to heteroseuxuals exercisement of marriage rights, they do NOT have equal rights.

It would appear that Robard and you have discussed this already, so I am probably rehashing old arguments.

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