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If anything truly deserves a "nigga please" remark, it's that.


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I think I saw that one! Weren't they saying they were playing poker with the guys but they ended up having sex?

Killer was the bald black guy?


Yes, sounds about right.


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Wow, I do remember that.

Funny that the whole thing is forgotten, in popular culture, as quickly as it came.


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Conspiracy by Blacks (males) to hide the fact thay they're all gay for cock?


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Honestly, hip hop is embedded with lots of "suggestive" lyrics.

In the 90s, west coast rappers used "suck my dick" as an insult. To this day, my friends try to say, "it's just how they talk," but seriously, there are plenty of ways to insult a man. That's not one of them.


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Are gay people really concerned about being legitimately married or do they just want the same rights that the partnership of marriage brings?

I can understand peoples point of view when it comes to allowing gay marriage. I don't agree with it. If it's going to make someone happy to say that they are married to another human being then let them have that right. If people can marry their pets, yet, gay marriage is illegal that seems to be sending the message that gay people are lower than dogs. However, i do not understand when people argue that gay partners cannot share the same rights that a straight married couple has. They contribute as much to this society as anyone else. They pay for their rights, why are they denied them?


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Are gay people really concerned about being legitimately married or do they just want the same rights that the partnership of marriage brings?

I can understand peoples point of view when it comes to allowing gay marriage. I don't agree with it. If it's going to make someone happy to say that they are married to another human being then let them have that right. If people can marry their pets, yet, gay marriage is illegal that seems to be sending the message that gay people are lower than dogs. However, i do not understand when people argue that gay partners cannot share the same rights that a straight married couple has. They contribute as much to this society as anyone else. They pay for their rights, why are they denied them?


Lot's of rage, but very little remorse.

You're just trying to stir the turd.

Are straight people really concerned about the supposed disappearance of sanctity in their own marriages that they would deny that legality to another couple based on sexual orientation? Yes.

The intimacy of your marriage shouldn't be effected by the marriage of your brother's marriage, yet that is the argument of most who deny rights to homosexuals. Marriage is supposedly sacred only when entered into by a man and a woman, but you can never justify why it can't be sacred between two women, without falling back on god.


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Good sir, let's not forget that God and sanctity do not make marriage, a marriage, the government does. If it were truly an sanctimonious bonding, then God would also have to be involved in divorce.


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Here's a letter that I wrote to my school newspaper in response to a column. It's the argument I've always used, and to date I've never heard a logical refutation.

No Debate Needed for Gay Marriage

and the column I was responding to: Politics, Never Right


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Good sir, let's not forget that God and sanctity do not make marriage, a marriage, the government does. If it were truly an sanctimonious bonding, then God would also have to be involved in divorce.


It's completely sanctimonious, given the reaction of far too many married couples to the idea of gay marriage.


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Here's a letter that I wrote to my school newspaper in response to a column. It's the argument I've always used, and to date I've never heard a logical refutation.

No Debate Needed for Gay Marriage

and the column I was responding to: Politics, Never Right


It boils down to "we hate ****", though few will actually admit it.


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Well certainly.


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Here's a letter that I wrote to my school newspaper in response to a column. It's the argument I've always used, and to date I've never heard a logical refutation.

No Debate Needed for Gay Marriage

and the column I was responding to: Politics, Never Right


And your response is logical. To debate the rights of one group vs another is not the place of a group of people who claim their own rights came from their (personal, christian or otherwise, subscribed-to, not the business of anyone else,completly-up-to-the-individual, maybe an atheist, non) creator. White, male, land-owning, religious or not members of the government have assumed it's their place to ask or ascribe rights they themselves claim to enjoy based simply on existing, to other people, such as other races, homosexuals, immigrants and women! If rights are above question for one group of human beings, then how is not understanding that so far beyond the comprehention of the very human beings that claim "inalienable" rights? And until we redefine the term "rights" for everyone, we have no real basis for drawing a difference in the rights allowed for one of us over another.


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It boils down to "we hate ****", though few will actually admit it.


Yeah basically. I'm kinda surprised at Strange's stance for some reason but for a fellow like the columinst he is responding to, it will take more than that to sway him:

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It’s fairly simple. Having a government-sanctioned homosexual marriage goes against my values, and thus, the government would be condoning an act that I and my religious beliefs find to be heinous. Of course, the same could be said about not allowing gay marriage, that it would go against the values of gay marriage supporters. Thus, we see both sides have something to lose in how the legislature handles this issue. Neither side is actually wrong or acting purely out of bigotry, but rather they are fighting for their personal values and beliefs. This is exactly what politics is all about.


That didn't even make any damn sense. I'm sure the gov't does plenty he does not like. Sigh whatever.


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Yeah basically. I'm kinda surprised at Strange's stance for some reason
surprised that I believe in equality as a core American value?


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A man had murdered his friend, because they were having sex and he had given him HIV, which in turn the man gave to his wife, who wasn't aware that her husband was "down low", with his friends.


That was an episode of Law & Order, actually. And when Ice-T's character explained what "living on the down-low" was to the rest of the cast, they were all astonished and stared at him as if he was gay. To which he said "Hey, don't look at me, I just know things.". laughing out loud


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That was an episode of Law & Order, actually. And when Ice-T's character explained what "living on the down-low" was to the rest of the cast, they were all astonished and stared at him as if he was gay. To which he said "Hey, don't look at me, I just know things.". laughing out loud


I dismiss your answer given under the pretense of black homosexuals claiming not to be gay for basically the same excuses offered by their white counterparts, as a viable excuse. You can be astonished at the true existence of homosexuality, but your perception is not needed for reality to be true. You are obviously free to cite and express an episode of fiction as a means to debate, but reality exists despite your desire for it to be reality. Homosexuals exist, and they deserve the same rights one would claim another heterosexual are entitled and deserving. To claim otherwise is to claim religious superiority, which is highly questionable....and not the basis on which the "American Dream" claims itself is supposedly based. Are your parents "American" Quiero Mota? Are mine, a generation removed? America serves many who claim "rights" as supposedly inalienable, but dismiss them when it comes to a segment of the population they ignore, resent and relegate and dismiss. As soon as the constitution makes allowances for your existance, I'll consider and vote for the same to be done for your own inability to meet those requirments. Otherise, be grateful for the rights my white, male, land-owning ass has given you. And while you're at it, be greatful I allowed you to eist at all. You have only what I've given you. Be happy with it. Recognize, *****; you 2nd class, up-to-me, hanger-on. You belong to me: just like everyone who isn't me and finds themselves living in this nation.


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Short hand? You have what you have because I dained to give it to you. You had no choice in exposing yourself as a hispanic,but as a white man who distributes rights because they're mine to give, you have any at all because I gave them to you. You can argue all you like, but you're arguing in my country. Thanks for understanding your prosper in my country. Boader-jumper!
And in all actuality, I kowtow to your parents. Just educate yourself and get pasted the idea that ******* are purse-carrying, zoo visiting, anti machismo queens. While i agree that you have a dumb-shit concept of what a man supposedly is, I'm sure you can decipher a person that can help you in a situational instance. But i'm sure I ove that you dismiss them for no good reason.


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Was all that really necessary? This is neither your blog nor your flame board. (No pun intended.)



Strangelove, you made a really good point in your letter. If I was on the fence while reading that, that alone would have swayed me. thumb up


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Was all that really necessary? This is neither your blog nor your flame board. (No pun intended.)



Strangelove, you made a really good point in your letter. If I was on the fence while reading that, that alone would have swayed me. thumb up


Calm down and take your meds.


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