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dems teh onez wanna bomb us

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As we speak Al Gore is jumping on the support Obama bandwagon....waited for Clinton to drop out then?

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Welll....the organization that your membership records are stored with will still claim you as a member and therefore you are counted amoung the Christians still. The only way around it is to have your name removed from their records.

That way, if you are randomly selected for a poll when it comes to atheism compared to theism, the numbers won't be skewed.

I don't know if you've heard but Christians say you must accept Jesus as your saviour, and all that other crap to get into heaven. They also say only christians get into heaven, meaning that you must do that to be a christian.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I don't.

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As we speak Al Gore is jumping on the support Obama bandwagon....waited for Clinton to drop out then?

By most accounts Gore and HRC have never gotten along particularly well.

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I don't know if you've heard but Christians say you must accept Jesus as your saviour, and all that other crap to get into heaven. They also say only christians get into heaven, meaning that you must do that to be a christian.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I don't.

Dude, I wasn't serious.

If Barack makes weed legal, he will be the best president in the history of the US.

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By most accounts Gore and HRC have never gotten along particularly well.

As a former member of the HRC, I can assure you that this group desrves not one iota of support by it's own paying membership.

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he was talking about Hillary Clinton, not the Human Rights Campaign.

But you probably knew that already.

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he was talking about Hillary Clinton, not the Human Rights Campaign.

But you probably knew that already.

I did. But I saw a chance to address the hypocrisy of the HRC. It makes one wonder why they subscribe to a lobby when that lobby will sell you out the moment the majority of the money comes from some where else.

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Aren't all lobbies like that?

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Aren't all lobbies like that?

Wouldn't that depend on the actual intent of the lobby and who pays for them?

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I suppose so.

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Well, then we can assume that the suppos'd lobby is not always fairly represent by the lobbyist that supposes to represent them. Which is appalingly the case with the HRC.

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That time were we referring to Hillary or the Human Rights thing?

Also, really... as a general question... what's so bad about lobbyists?

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That time were we referring to Hillary or the Human Rights thing?

Also, really... as a general question... what's so bad about lobbyists?

Barack Hussein Obama or the cable channel: Home Box Office? Hillary Rodham Clinton or the Human Right's Campaign?

In definition, there is nothing wrong with lobbyists, except when they become the defining factor in the government. The goals of one group, supposedly equal in consideration to another, default to being represented by a lobbyist is a good thing. But when the group being represented by, not the objective espoused, but the unserving people who control the lobby and then fund the power behind the lobbyist, neither the sloagan or the people or the objective are served. If lobbyists actually served the cause they espouse, then they woud be a benefit. But since they are mostly serving the men who hold the purse strings, they become a liability. So, they should be done away with, as a whole.

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So I take it you're not a fan of Big Oil, Big Tobacco or Big Pharma...

Since the premise of this thread is retarded I'm going to pose questions that have been popping up for me. Could someone elaborate for me what a "different kind of politics" is supposed to entail? No Big Oil, Big Tobacco or Big Pharma allowed?

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No, what I think is that they shouldn't be a crux of the laws, propogana and policy of our government.

And I certainly realize they're a part of Mr. Obama's ideas for government; as they are with Mr. McCain's and Mrs. Clintons'

But if we can't actually vote for our best interest, then we should vote for what most considers our self-interests, shouldn't we?

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Who here would consider Obama a Socialist?

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Dude, I wasn't serious.

If Barack makes weed legal, he will be the best president in the history of the US.

It's hard to tell with you.

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Who here would consider Obama a Socialist?

Republicans like you and Sithsaber.

I would've said ignorant ****tarded republicans, but that implies there are republicans who aren't.

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Dude, I wasn't serious.

If Barack makes weed legal, he will be the best president in the history of the US.

i used to disagree for economic reasons, but nowadays i'd have to agree. ****in drug tests

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