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Can Broly destroy a universe?
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King Kandy
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Which was destroyed over a long period of time, not near-instantly.

Is that really the case? I know that was true for Buu...


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Each of Goku and the other's attacks that were thrown at Broly could have busted way more than a planet. He could take these attacks without being scratched. Goku could take attacks that could bust planets after he unlocked his super saiyan powers. He almost died after the first few attacks. That means that Brolies casual attacks could destroy hundreds and hundreds of planets. I'm sure if he tried he could destroy many galaxies.

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Goku could take attacks that could bust planets after he unlocked his super saiyan powers.

That would explain why he died when Cell blew himself up. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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DBU is only four galaxies large meaning Broly would need to replicate his feat (i.e galaxy busting) only three times over to destroy the whole thing.

As for a universe like ours with hundreds of billions of galaxies on the visible space then it's a different story, Broly would die of old age before he could wipe them all out.

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Not to mention the power hierarchy does not apply to noncanon characters like Broly.


Is there a DBZ/GT hierarchy thread? I would like to see it.
Even though Broly is non cannon he can be imputted. Most likely somewhere above any SS2 but not over Fat Buu.

As for this thread, yeah he could do it but it'll take a while.

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^ Above any SS2? No no no. Proficient SS2's like Goku and Vegeta would stomp Broly, with their fingers only.


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Is that really the case? I know that was true for Buu...

Then it should really be the case for Broly as well, no?
In addition to never really demonstrating a Galaxy-busting level of power in his fights (or anyone else in the DBU demonstrating that level of power), the notion that Broly can bust Galaxies comes from poor dubbing and the resulting fan-wank.


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^ Above any SS2? No no no. Proficient SS2's like Goku and Vegeta would stomp Broly, with their fingers only.



Then it should really be the case for Broly as well, no?
In addition to never really demonstrating a Galaxy-busting level of power in his fights (or anyone else in the DBU demonstrating that level of power), the notion that Broly can bust Galaxies comes from poor dubbing and the resulting fan-wank.


Now this is a terrible way of debating. That's like saying "since Odin doesn't display Galaxy busting powers in all of his fights is PIS or doesn't count for the character" or "since Surfer doesn't show Planet Buster power n 95% of his fights or matter manipulating abilities, he can't do it".

TERRIBLE WAY OF DEBATING... shows no skill.


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Right, except they would show that power in 5% of their fight, whereas Broly would show it in 0% of his fights.
It's fan-wank and poor dubbing. The Japanese version (original) makes no mention that the South Galaxy has been destroyed in one attack/already been destroyed by Broly.

No one in the DBU has shown a galaxy busting level of power. Bloodrain has already shown you that Goku himself cannot destroy a star even when he's at SS3.


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Out of curiosity, does that silly SS3 Broly from the Raging Blast games even have any feats, or is the transformation just a strictly gameplay kind of form like Oozaru Nappa and Raditz? Normally I wouldn't ask that kind of question, but Broly himself is non-canon as it is, so eh...


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Right, except they would show that power in 5% of their fight, whereas Broly would show it in 0% of his fights.
It's fan-wank and poor dubbing. The Japanese version (original) makes no mention that the South Galaxy has been destroyed in one attack/already been destroyed by Broly.

No one in the DBU has shown a galaxy busting level of power. Bloodrain has already shown you that Goku himself cannot destroy a star even when he's at SS3.


But Broly doesn't have as many appearances as them either so the feats that he does have holds weight. Then let's not include the fact that it was brought up on multiple occassions during the story that he is a legitament Galaxy buster.

Bloodrain didn't really prove anything, I just stop debating against him. What bloodrain did prove is that Goku can destroy 15 planets in a single attack at Super Saiyan 1 and if a SS 1 can do that, Brolly should be capable of annihilating a Galaxy imo snce he didn't have a cap on his power.


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But Broly doesn't have as many appearances as them either so the feats that he does have holds weight. Then let's not include the fact that it was brought up on multiple occassions during the story that he is a legitament Galaxy buster.

Show us those "multiple occasions" then.

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Bloodrain didn't really prove anything, I just stop debating against him. What bloodrain did prove is that Goku can destroy 15 planets in a single attack at Super Saiyan 1 and if a SS 1 can do that, Brolly should be capable of annihilating a Galaxy imo snce he didn't have a cap on his power.

If that's not fan-wank, then I don't know what is... Goku wouldn't destroy a planet anyway.


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Show us those "multiple occasions" then.


If that's not fan-wank, then I don't know what is... Goku wouldn't destroy a planet anyway.


It was reference from Goku and King Ki mentioned Broly destroying a Galaxy as well if he wasn't stopped.

Goku being capable of destroying 15+ planets was canon material... fan wank had nothing to do with it.


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But King Ki didn't specify how fast Broly destroyed that galaxy, let alone say that he did it in an instant or anything along the lines of that.

Just saying that doesn't make it so.


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But Broly doesn't have as many appearances as them either so the feats that he does have holds weight. Then let's not include the fact that it was brought up on multiple occassions during the story that he is a legitament Galaxy buster.

Bloodrain didn't really prove anything, I just stop debating against him. What bloodrain did prove is that Goku can destroy 15 planets in a single attack at Super Saiyan 1 and if a SS 1 can do that, Brolly should be capable of annihilating a Galaxy imo snce he didn't have a cap on his power.


Sure, provided said feats aren't taken to ridiculous proportions based on poor dubbing. Feats such as him tanking one of Goku's SS1 Kamehameha's, or destroying a planet, or stomping Goku and his friends, are viable. A feat of him busting a galaxy however, is not, not when said 'feat' is really just Broly attacking places in the South Galaxy over a long period of time, resulting in the galaxy slowing getting destroyed bit by bit.
Galaxy busting implies that he could destroy a galaxy in one-shot, not over the course of a long/unspecified period of time, as was the case with Broly. Even then, the South Galaxy wasn't completely destroyed by Broly. Even then, Buu and Freeza could do what Broly did.

If Goku at SS1 had a high enough energy output to destroy 15 Planets, then Sun-busting should be out of Goku's league, even if he's at SS3. That's what BR stated, and you pretty much agreed/couldn't debate against it.

In the movies we saw him in, he definitely had a cap on his power.


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I have heard this many times from DBZ fans without logical proof of this. Now I want to hear anyone's honest opinion. And a reason as to why would be good.

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Brolly can one shot a galaxy, but not a universe. At least not at any of the levels shown.


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He never one shotted that galaxy. Not even close.


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Looks like, someone's never seen the 1st Broly movie. It's in like the 1st 30 secs of the movie.


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Looks like, someone's only seen the 1st 30 seconds of the 1st Broly movie.


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Uh-oh I've been exposed!
Sure thing pal.


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Hey, you're the guy who thinks Broly one-shotted that galaxy, when that isn't what the evidence or logic shows.

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