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chilled monkey
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the fires on the inside indicate that there was an explosion on the inside of the ship as well which blade survived easily


True, and to be fair, it is an impressive feat for Blade. But Cap's one is still better.

Let me put it this way; look at two crashed vehicles, one is seriously damaged, but still basically in one piece. The other is smashed into bits. Which is more likely to have people aboard survive the crash?

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True, and to be fair, it is an impressive feat for Blade. But Cap's one is still better.

Let me put it this way; look at two crashed vehicles, one is seriously damaged, but still basically in one piece. The other is smashed into bits. Which is more likely to have people aboard survive the crash?
I see what you're saying but you also have to see captain america admits the crash couldve killed him and hes lucky

they have close stats, but I think blade projectiles give him a slight advantage

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...blade doesnt break vampires ribs to get to the heart, since a child hes practices stabbing the heart and can do it easily, he knows how to hit the heart without looking, the adamantium ribcage wouldnt really man a thing

and blade had to hands free, he was in a perfect position to stake blade if he was a vampire (blade was able to fight a vamped out spiderman and couldve staked him quite easily but wanted to save parkers life, wolverine isnt that much faster or stronger than spiderman if at all)


He still has to draw the stake though. He has none on his person, but almost certainly has a few concealed. Could he whip one out and use it before Logan killed him? Perhaps, but highly unlikely.

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He still has to draw the stake though. He has none on his person, but almost certainly has a few concealed. Could he whip one out and use it before Logan killed him? Perhaps, but highly unlikely.
blade always has a stake, look at his fight with dracula he pulled one out of his shoe, not tom mention he wouldnt need his stake a bullet would of as well, , wolverine wouldve been in trouble after he turned, the fight couldve really gone either way, both of them couldve killed each other, the thing was neither wanted too

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He still has to draw the stake though. He has none on his person, but almost certainly has a few concealed. Could he whip one out and use it before Logan killed him? Perhaps, but highly unlikely.
Blade actually has a retractable blade in his boots.


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Blade actually has a retractable blade in his boots.
I dunno if its retractable..cause remember the stake was left in draculas chest in order to make sure he stayed dead

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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade always has a stake, look at his fight with dracula he pulled one out of his shoe, not tom mention he wouldnt need his stake a bullet would of as well, , wolverine wouldve been in trouble after he turned, the fight couldve really gone either way, both of them couldve killed each other, the thing was neither wanted too


And there we go with the fanboyism AGAIN!

Okay let's just forget completely for one second the fact that Wolverine probably wouldn't turn in the first place. I mean you certainly don't seem to have a problem doin it anyhow.

And let's forget that a vamped out Wolverine would be faster and stronger than he is already even though Wolverine's natural strength and speed are too much for Blade to handle before vamping out.

Let's ignore the fact that Blade was stuck with Wolverine in full mount. Wolverine's legs comprimising what Blade can and can't reach.

The fact that IF Blade had a stake it's certainly concealed and would need at least some time to swipe out.

The fact that Blade being stuck in full mount robs him of his leverage.

The fact that Wolverine has an Adamantium skeleton with would also compromise Blades ability to stab him in the heart as he would have to work around it.

Or the fact that Wolverine's a better fighter with a wealth more experience in versatility, training, and real fights and would thus more likely do better in a scramble than blade would anyway.

Or finally the fact that if Wolverine wanted, he could have simply crushed Blade's windpipe in the position they were already in.






AFTER ALL THAT.
You're either incredibly overestimating Blade's speed or underestimating Wolverine's to say that Blade could do anything offensively after (, in fact WHILE) injecting that needle before Logan would or could make one casual swipe.

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jinzin, you fail to realize that if blade knew logan was in killmode (which he wasn't) then blade never would've been in that situation

so you cant say logan can just casually decapitate blade since he has blade trapped because blade would have never compromised his position had the fight been to the death from the start

so please leave your fanboyish interpretations at the door please...


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jinzin, you fail to realize that if blade knew logan was in killmode (which he wasn't) then blade never would've been in that situation

so you cant say logan can just casually decapitate blade since he has blade trapped because blade would have never compromised his position had the fight been to the death from the start

so please leave your fanboyish interpretations at the door please...
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jinzin, you fail to realize that if blade knew logan was in killmode (which he wasn't) then blade never would've been in that situation
You're right about that, because Wolverine would have chopped Blade into meat cubes with the first two connects of that fight. laughing out loud

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so you cant say logan can just casually decapitate blade since he has blade trapped because blade would have never compromised his position had the fight been to the death from the start

So Blade's "plan" of "letting" Wolverine disarm him and pin him wasn't such a good plan afterall and that somehow illiegitimates Wolverine's position of advantage. I don't think so.

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so please leave your fanboyish interpretations at the door please...
Says one of the people who thinks Blade's on the same level as Pre-Montesi Formula Drac. roll eyes (sarcastic)
... Make a good example I might follow it. wink


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And there we go with the fanboyism AGAIN!

Okay let's just forget completely for one second the fact that Wolverine probably wouldn't turn in the first place. I mean you certainly don't seem to have a problem doin it anyhow.

And let's forget that a vamped out Wolverine would be faster and stronger than he is already even though Wolverine's natural strength and speed are too much for Blade to handle before vamping out.

Let's ignore the fact that Blade was stuck with Wolverine in full mount. Wolverine's legs comprimising what Blade can and can't reach.

The fact that IF Blade had a stake it's certainly concealed and would need at least some time to swipe out.

The fact that Blade being stuck in full mount robs him of his leverage.

The fact that Wolverine has an Adamantium skeleton with would also compromise Blades ability to stab him in the heart as he would have to work around it.

Or the fact that Wolverine's a better fighter with a wealth more experience in versatility, training, and real fights and would thus more likely do better in a scramble than blade would anyway.

Or finally the fact that if Wolverine wanted, he could have simply crushed Blade's windpipe in the position they were already in.






AFTER ALL THAT.
You're either incredibly overestimating Blade's speed or underestimating Wolverine's to say that Blade could do anything offensively after (, in fact WHILE) injecting that needle before Logan would or could make one casual swipe.

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Its not fanboyism, yes Im looking at it from a certain perspective but after all of that I admit that it could still go either way, wovlerine couldve gutted blade certainly, blade was extremely weakened (he hadnt had blood in moths) s oofcourse it is perfectly understandable that wolverine coud kill blade easily, I could give serveral ways in which wolverine could win too. however that would be speculatio nagain pleaaase stop with that scan it was a draw

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It was not a draw, one person had a position of leverage and advantage. One person didn't.

One person was banking on a plan that probably wouldn't work or would actually backfire, to help save his ass, the other person wasn't.

One person had their opponent dead to rights, the other MIGHT have had their opponent dead to rights, if he could grab a weapon, if the vile worked, if he could get around the skeleton...

It was far from a stalemate and to call it as such invalidates the position of disadvantage that Blade was in.

Wolverine's stopped fights with Hulk.. I certainly wouldn't call them draws. no expression


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It was not a draw, one person had a position of leverage and advantage. One person didn't.

One person was banking on a plan that probably wouldn't work or would actually backfire, to help save his ass, the other person wasn't.

One person had their opponent dead to rights, the other MIGHT have had their opponent dead to rights, if he could grab a weapon, if the vile worked, if he could get around the skeleton...

It was far from a stalemate and to call it as such invalidates the position of disadvantage that Blade was in.

Wolverine's stopped fights with Hulk.. I certainly wouldn't call them draws. no expression
difference is both of them admitted to a draw, youre pretty much one of the only one clinging to the fact its not a draw, I dont wanna call yo ua fanboy because I know you have much knowledge of the character but come on - the fight was written as a stalemate whether r not both characters were trying

there are many different ways I could evaluate it to make it seem like blade was winning but I wont because it was a stalemate

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Hey Jinzin, you know, you should really think about adding another section to your respect thread. It should be comprised of all the fights Wolverine's had with heroes, with the intent of showing just how much he holds back against people he knows are "on the side of the angels." Maybe that would get these people who think he was trying to kill Blade in their fight to pipe down a bit laughing.

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One thing I noticed in that fight was that Blade wasn't vamped-out. Isn't he suppose to show the fangs when he gets a "mad on" as he calls it?

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One thing I noticed in that fight was that Blade wasn't vamped-out. Isn't he suppose to show the fangs when he gets a "mad on" as he calls it?
yeah when he vamps out its the same as when wolverine goes berserker, neither was realy all out, fight=draw

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One thing I noticed in that fight was that Blade wasn't vamped-out. Isn't he suppose to show the fangs when he gets a "mad on" as he calls it?

Blade's Vamped out face:

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Oh yeah...and Cap wins.


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Blade's Vamped out face:

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Oh yeah...and Cap wins.
Wasn't that when Blade realized he recognized Wolverine?

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Wasn't that when Blade realized he recognized Wolverine?

Nah, that's when he realized he couldn't beat Wolverine.


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Nah, that's when he realized he couldn't beat Wolverine.
Oh, I thought he recognized Wolverine after he took his mask off.

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