Understand you're a fan, but no, WWH takes this.
If Superman were fighting only Savage Hulk and both his dynamic regeneration and endurance were removed....he would pwn.
World War Hulk or Worldbreaker? No. Superman has no chances of overcoming WWH's level of increasing strength, endurance and HF...especially considering his fighting style. It will revert to a slugfest and Superman is highly likely to lose.
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Last edited by horrorwolf on Jun 20th, 2008 at 02:48 PM
All those guys touched him because he was just brawling with them. If Superman fights stupid he'll choose to merely brawl with WWH giving the Hulk a chance to win.
However, the point you Hulk fans are missing is that Superman - unlike Hulk - has options. He can speedblitz, freeze Hulk or burn him continuously with his HV (and please don't underestimate Supes full HV).
Hell, if he wants to, with his microscopic vision and HV he can lobotomize the Hulk. And don't tell me Hulk will just regenerate, because even if he does, his neural pathways would have been tampered with/rewired changing his mind state.
Basically, Hulk's only chance is if Superman brawls him straight up, which he only does against the aforementioned opponents for the purpose of the plot.
How interesting would the comics be if Superman merely speedblitzed those guys? A great example of Superman using a speedblitz against Darkseid is in the DCAU episode 'destroyer', where with his speed he basically turns their battle into an exercise of ping pong, with Darkseid getting hurled all over Metropolis.
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Savage Hulk has taken extreme levels of HV from Gladiator which was proven inneffective, and well as stood up against his vastly superior speed in combat (which both his movement speed and HV has been shown to rival Superman's) He has also countered everything Sentry has to offer. Even disentegration beams have 0 effect on Hulk.
World War Hulk? The best HV will do is serve to actually piss him off even faster.
The problem with Superman is that according to some fans in here, "he is too fast to ever get hit" by the likes of Grundy Kalibak, Lobo, and Metallo. But this is just not the case according to his OWN fight history....so maybe Superman is just plain dumb or a glutton for punishment - who knows.... but but no signifigant combat speed is shown in these battles with these other tanks, and WWH is easily regarded as faster and far stronger than them all.
Another problem is that Superman,(as evidenced in these fights) always resorts to a brawl in these and others as well....sealing the outcome in favor of WWH.
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Last edited by horrorwolf on Jun 20th, 2008 at 04:10 PM
I don't think you know what Supes HV can do. Coupled with his microscopic vision superman can do more than pierce Hulk's flesh. His HV is also - to an unknown degree - hotter than the sun, so forgive me for thinking that Hulk wouldn't go unscathed if Superman directed his HV at him with evil intent.
Grundy, Kalibak and Lobo can be speedblitzed but are not for the interest of the plot. And don't see how Superman is an idiot or glutton for punishment when he wins majority of his brawls and has no say in how the writers portray his fights. In combat Superman has used his super speed and just about every time he does, he absolutely physically pawns his opponent.
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Well for starters.... "evil intent" and "HV labotomies" get filed in the same category as "punching people into the sun","beheadings" and "speedblitzing".
They are pretty funny imaginative concepts for Superman fans, but are not reflective of his history in comics and are CERTAINLY not a part of his fighting style or character whatsoever. Have to admit though, - pretty funny stuff.
Know what...Batman (with evil intent) could also offer Clark a Kryptonite Milkshake in a lead laced plastic cup and straw...but.....
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Last edited by horrorwolf on Jun 20th, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Superman could lobotomize the Hulk because it wouldn't be fatal to Hulk. And even against characters that can't regenerate, Superman's MV is so precise he can avoid killing his target. And at yourself, Superman has lobotomized his opponents in the comics if he's had to.
And he has used his full HV with evil intent in the comics (how do you think I even considered it a viable tactic for Superman?).
Really, WWH is over matched - he's slower and one dimensional. And Superman has owned guys like Hulk in DC by speedblitzing.
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Last edited by Allankles on Jun 20th, 2008 at 05:04 PM
like doomsday and other pure bricks, superman had to actually take the fight to them, especially the hulk since he is almost impervious to harm from a veriety of sources.
Like the leader of the Elites. A powerful telepath and telekinetic whose meta human rating rivaled Superman's. Superman lobotomized him shutting down his ability to tap into his considerable psionic abilities. And he was so precise he didn't kill him.
The procedure was so precise the guy didn't even know superman had lobotomized him, the fact that superman was moving so fast he couldn't be seen, also had something do with the fact he was oblivious.
That's DOS Superman he's much stronger now, and he embarrassed Doomsday afterwards, years after he came back from his death. Using speed and psyching Doomsday into a defeatist mindset, putting him down without much ceremony.
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lol I hope you aren't comparing him to WWH's durabilty and regen,
Even regular Savage Hulk reflected Gladiators HV beams back at himself when he tried to penetrate him, and Gladiator's HV is said to be hotter than to core of the sun. It couldn't full penetrate Savage Hulk....I guarantee you it wont do jack to World War Hulk.
FYI: That was also not the same Superman in his current state...And even for the sake of argument if we say he would try it, it wont work.
HV lobotomy vs WWH = epic fail.
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Last edited by horrorwolf on Jun 20th, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Superman's stregth feats are greater then hulks IMHO, he would beat the Hulk even in an slugfest alla Sentr vs WWH. He would succeed where Sentry failed. Though to be fair WWH is a beast too, maybe he would get 1-2 wins.
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WWH isn't beating Supes for the majority imo. I really don't understand why Supes is being doubted in this battle. He has so much versatility, so much speed, and years of feats to put him over WWH. It is not a question in my mind that Superman will put down WWH. Or has everyone forgotten who "The Man of Steel" has proved himself to be over the years.
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