I really wish people would at least pay attention in a movie before they proclaim nonsense.
Hulk did have a healing factor. When the helicopter blade whacked him on the shoulder, it was healing by the time he looked over at Ross while surrounded by fire, granted, it didn't do very much damage to begin with. It was very subtle, but there, you need to pay attention.
Fazed? The bullets didn't slow him down for a second. He was shot, he turned to see where the fire was coming from and he charged those that were attacking him. They certainly didn't cause any damage.
Actually, the only bias in this thread so far has been from the Blade side, no one has said what you claim.
That's assuming Blade is strong enough to even cut through Hulk's muscles and bone. Considering how durable his body is, Blade may not be.
Adamantium has affected Hulk differently, he had his stomach opened up once, but then again, that was a combo of an adamantium blade and it was travelling at super speeds. Wolverine hasn't been able to do much to Hulk except superficial wounds and a few stabs.
I noticed something about his back as well...but, I chalk that up as a mistake rather than a healing. One minute it was there, then the next it was gone. However, those superficial cuts stay there. Sounds like a mistake to me rather than healing.
As far as this discussion goes...
I'm not entirely sure Blade can cut through the hulk. Also, we shouldn't forget that Blonski was on of the best soldiers in the world for this movie. In addition to that, he was super soldiered up. I'm going to have to give Blonski an edge on Blade as far as fighting goes. Blade doesn't show as much acrobatics as Blonski and those acrobatics are what saved Blonski from getting "Hulk RAPED!".
It's hard for me to say...because I could easily see the writers writing in the same uber stuff for Blade like they did in the movies. He will get beat down, ugh ugh ugh...pow whack umpf, etc. Then he will get focused and jump up and chop Hulk's head off.
It didn't appear, disappear and reappear. He was cut a bit, then it was shown as be lesser cut when the camera went back to Hulk. Similar when Blonsky stabbed him in the chest. There is absolutely no reason to assume the Hulk doesn't have a healing factor, Marvel had a hand in this movie, I am fairly certain they know their own creation. The Hulk wasn't shown jumping miles, yet it was also implied.
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Exactly, you can have the sharpest blade/sword in the world, it would still take a tremendous amount of force to cut through a cow. Being sharp is only part of the factor.
Blade did show some similar skill at dodging/jumping in Blade II. It's still a one-sided fight as there isn't much Blade could do to bring down Hulk.
2. Hulk could not physically tag Blonsky, at all. Blonsky I will say is a worse martial artist and fighter than Blade. And Blade is at least as fast.
3. Lol wut? So we assume he has healing in the movie when he didn't use it? He didn't heal from Abom's wound, but we assume he could of anyway? Blade was given the weapon by the threadstarter to make the match more even, stop b!tching about it.
4. Like he did Blonsky?
5. Blade severs his head, also, you have to remember Blade is physicallu above any human, and with an Adamantium sword which wouldn't break like any normal blade, it can cut Hulk. Maybe not in one blow, but Blade is fast enough to evade Hulk and eventually fatally wound him IMO.
It could also be a misperception or simple continuity problems. The hulk kept the same exact cuts from the campus fight all the way to the cave...however, I did notice the shoulder part...and the chest gash looking smaller.
He may have a healing factor in that movie...but it was very very small if it was there based on what we see.
Blade is superhuman strong...but.......he doesn't seem that strong. In both hulk movies, he takes artillery rounds. I'm thinking it would take some hella strength to cut through the hulk with a sword...adamantium or otherwise.
I'll have to watch II again...it has been a while.
So was Blonski...significantly. He picked up Sterns with one arm all the way over his head. He was able to run faster, with little effort, than the other soldiers. He wasn't even out of breath.
It took something with the strength of the Abomination to significantly get through Hulk's durability, yet you think Blade with his vampire strength is somehow going to because he has adamantium? Do you think Blade can hit harder than .50 caliber bullets or grenade launchers? Maybe harder than a the propeller of a helicopter or even the helicopter crashing down on someone? Do you think he can hit even half as hard as Abomination?
Here's a hint, adamantium doesn't make the sword magically sharper, just nigh-unbreakable.
He did have a healing factor, he was never hurt bad enough to show how much he could recover from. It's ridiculous to assume his healing is lackluster simply because he wasn't completely gutted/de-bowled and then healed.
The shoulder cut from the helicopter wasn't much to go on, as it didn't do much damage. Also, the cuts didn't stay the same, it almost seems like they implied the Hulk scars when he heals, but then they vanish once he transforms to Banner and again.
The puncture to the chest was shown to heal, it stopped bleeding seconds after he pulled Abominations elbow out of him; by the end of the fight, it was just a superficial gash, if that.
So the only advantage is that the blade is more durable? Doesn't seem like much of an advantage. It's not like it cuts easier than a steel blade.
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You're essentially playing out the scenario for Blade, in his favour. Not assessing the abilities of both movie versions and deciding who is a realistic winner. That is how fantasy fights go.
What did Blonsky do to Hulk, then? Because as far as I remember, he pelted him with every weapon he had, to no avail, dodged him for a bit, and then got his skeleton shattered.
It's the same as Iron Man fights. If your argument is that Blade is going to avoid Hulk, then fine, but he can't exactly do anything that's gonna harm him, realistically.
He did heal, he healed from the helicopter crash too.
Exactly, Blade was given a more durable weapon, so what? It doesn't matter if it's adamantium or titanium. In fact, that's quite revealing. He obviously KNOWS that Blade plus a sword doesn't present a challenge for Hulk, so he made the fatal mistake of giving him an adamantium sword under the premise that it's somehow a better, sharper sword or something. It's not, it's just more durable. Since that's irrelavent, we can therefore assume Hulk is the winner.
If the threadstarter knew that Blade with a sword wasn't a match, why is a more durable sword gonna make any more difference? It's not.
Yeah, and that would have been smart. Ripping the main antagonist in half, mid-way through the movie and thus preventing the main villain from ever existing.
See? This is what I mean. You're factually deciding "This is what Blade will definitely do, and Hulk has no way of stopping it.". Why? What's the point? A) He simply wouldn't win the fight, he isn't that capable, even in the comics. B) Adamantium might not break, but it's not necessarily any sharper, it's just more durable. So if a normal sword wouldn't work, neither would an adamantium one, it'd just last longer. So it'd be ineffective...for longer. What an achievement.
"Blade is fast enough to evade Hulk and eventually fatally wound him.".
Let's try that type of thing for Hulk.
"Hulk grabs Blade and rips him in two.". There. "But no, cos Blade would...". If Blade has all these avenues of success, why are you assuming Hulk would stand there and take it? If handgun bullets to the face and grenades to the body did nothing, what is a sword going to do? Blade got whooped by Dracula, how is he going to fight Hulk?
Read and reread it, doesn't change my opinion one bit. Lets see movie Blade has Capoeira, ju jitsu which will do nothing to movie Hulk, Neither will the rocker launcher. All that is gonna do make Hulk much angrier than he already is. It may slow him down some, but that is all. I even doubt movie Hulk will even let movie Blade jump towards him, if he does thunderclap and down goes movie Blade or movie Hulk sidesteps followed by one, two devastating punches
1. I say Blade wins because he is fast enough to evade Hulk's blows and fatally wound Hulk. Although Hulk is physically above any human, he still has about the same anatomy, and the same weak spots, which Blade with an adamantium blade can cut of stab.
2. He dodged him effortlessly, shooting Hulk, running circles around him, and made Hulk look like an idiot. And bullets did effect him, though it was minor, it couldn't break his skin, but he felt them. Yeah, he got his skeleton shatter when he did a stupid moronic move and dropped his weapons and sized up on Hulk, Blade isn't gonna do something that stupid.
Other than put the adamantium blade in his temple possibly? Or maybe one of the other many weak points Hulk would realistically have.
3. I don't remember that part to be honest. I will look up on it.
The same way it takes stronger metal to cut stronger materials, iron would break on Hulk's skin, Adamantium would not, and Abom put a blunt elbow spine in his chest easily, granted, Abom is much stronger than Blade, but Adamantium is much stronger and the blade is sharper. It is more durable, Blade's normal sword would break on Hulk, Adamantium will not.
Lol, excuses. Hulk could not touch Blonsky, face it, Hulk in the movie was not very fast reflex wise, he could run fast, sure, but could not touch Blonsky at all until Blonsky let his new moves go to his head, he ain't touching Blade either.
And you do the same thing. I think Blade is fast and skilled enough to do a fatal wound on Hulk before Hulk can pummel him. That is my opinion.
Blade got whooped by Dracula? A>B>C logic ftl, Dracula was not only stronger than Blade, but at least as fast and skilled as well. He has the shit needed to take Blade.
If Wolverine has never been able to do much against Hulk's skin with his adamantium claws, what exactly do you think Blade is going to do with a sword? Sure Blade is stronger, he isn't that much stronger though.
Do you really think Hulk is just going to sit there and let Blade chop at this neck over and over? It seems you imagine the fight would go this way.
Either way, Hulk's healing would probably keep up with the cuts. Blade cuts his neck a little, by the time Blade gets another of these neck-hits in, Hulk would already be healing for the prior one.
All Hulk has to do is hit Blade once to seriously hurt/impair him, you don't see this happening?
Hulk has the same weak spots as any human? What, like when he took bullets and grenades, sonic guns and a helicopter to the back and they were all fatal wounds?
How silly are you? Very.
If the thread starter didn't think a sword was an advantage, then obviously durability isn't gonna change this.
So you've gone from saying they hurt him to, "He felt them.". So? They were bullets hitting his skin, of course he's going to actually feel it, skin feels stuff. I feel a fly if it lands on my arm. It didn't hurt him, so therefore the bullets argument is pathetic. We saw in that very scene that bullets do not affect the man.
Yes, he dodged around Hulk and shot him, then what? What did that do to Hulk? Exactly, nothing. It doesn't matter how he made him "look", he couldn't do ANYTHING and he ended up being flattened by one kick.
Hulk doesn't have the weak spots you are claiming he has. Furthermore, why are you definitely assuming Blade could get close and have enough time to jam it into his temple? Why can you not think "Well Hulk would obviously grab him off."? Cos you're biased and know nothing.
Don't remember what bit?
Adamantium is not "sharper" than any other metal. It's just more durable, you are now deciding it's sharper to help Blade. You're being ridiculous. No, the sword is the same, it's just more durable, so it'd have a longer rate of failure, excellent. I'm sure that'll do him a lot of good.
Abomination did it because he was strong enough. Blade isn't.
How is it an excuse? We saw what he did to Blonsky with ONE kick, so why would the director allow him to get both hands on Blonsky and rip him apart when he needs to survive to become Abomination? It's fact, it's not an excuse.
Well, you're wrong, to put it simply.
He wasn't fast, he was sluggish. He didn't show anything close to the strength of Hulk. Hulk's agility was greater too.
"Wolverine’s entire skeletal structure, including his claws, has been artificially bonded to the nearly indestructible metal Adamantium. As a result, Wolverine’s bones are virtually unbreakable, and his claws are capable of cutting through almost any substance depending on its thickness and the amount of force he can exert." www.marvel.com
There's a reason why Wolverine has never been able to do much to Hulk with his adamantium claws, the Hulk's skin, muscle and bone tissue is extremely resilient, as repeatedly seen. So I'm not sure why you keep going on and on about Blade decapitating Hulk after a few hits, even if the Hulk was unconscious.
Also, if bullets to the face at reasonably close range were not enough to even pierce SKIN, much less skewer the man's temple, why does he think he's gonna straddle Hulk's shoulders and do that?
1. Yes, Hulk is basically just a really, really, really, advanced human physically. He is still human, and as such as the same weaknesses, like temple, eyes, ect.
2. Yeah it will, in that it will be able to cut him because it won't break going through the skin.
3. Thanks for taking what I said out of context. Yes, he was shown to feel pain from bullets, they did not wound him badly, but he still felt pain.
He was making Hulk look like a giant idiot and was hurting Hulk slightly, but his job was to get him in range of those sonic weapons. Blonsky did not have an adamantium blade, but you can't disreguard the fact that Hulk could not touch Blonsky when he was actually trying to dodge Hulk's blows. He had two large weapons for God's sake, and Hulk could not graze him with them.
4. So he doesn't have temples? Lol, he definately has eyes, what if Blade were to take out his eyes? And don't pull that healing factor bullshit, I'll acknowledge he has one, but he only showed the ability to heal cuts, never regrew an eye. I'm biased and know nothing? Wtf is stopping Blade from jamming it in his temple, cause the slow ass Huc sure as hell isn't going to. Blonsky was running around Hulk effortlessly and even jumped up on Hulk's back without Hulk being able to hit him, why the hell can't Blade jump on his back and jam his fvckin temple? I'm biased and know nothing? Lol...You say Hulk has super haters on this forum. I like Hulk, but with the current conditions of this fight, I think Blade can win.
5. The Helicopter part. I don't remember it cutting him.
No, a normal sword is not durable enough to keep on going through Hulk's skin, adamantium is, oh and Robtard, Adamantium goes through Hulk just fine in comics, and comic Hulk>>>2008 movie Hulk in durability.
I agree, Blade is not strong enough to put a blunt spine in Hulk's chest. He is strong enough to put an adamantium blade in Hulk's temple through.
6. Yeah, we saw what he did to Blonsky when Blonsky made no attempt to dodge like an idiot, when Blonsky was fighting Hulk though, he was not hit at all by Huc. Deal with it, Huc could not touch Blonsky when Blonsky was fighting him.
7. He was sluggish my ass. He caught an arrow in midair with ease when fired at him by Abigail from begind. He leaped from across a large room through glass at Blade before he transformed. He wasn't as strong as Huc, no shit, but was faster with reflexes, smarter, and more skilled, he is basically everything Blade is and more. Huc couldn't really run tremendously fast in the movie, Blonsky outran him, and IMO Blade is about as fast at running as Blonsky.
Yeah, it does superficial wounds. Hulk and Wolverine have fought on multiple occasions, he either scratches the surface of the skin or stabs him a few inches. Both don't do a thing to hinder the Hulk, only make him madder. Which is what exactly would be the outcome of this fight.
Why would you assume that? Because Ross didn't nuke the Hulk in the movie? He took several calibers of bullets, grenades, rockets, helicopter crashing into him, Stark sonic cannons, falling from incredible eights and being flailed upon by a chain & concrete swinging Abomination, yet he isn't as durable?
From what is seen, it's safe to assume he is 'The Hulk' and not some second rate version. Your bias is amusing.
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