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All right, Blight and T.
I have a proposal. You guys seem fairly confident Tir can win this, so what say we pick a Link and debate this with that one specific link from here on out.
I suggest Skyward Sword Link, Twilight Princess Link, or Ocarina of Time Link.
We already have Skyward feats in here, so that would be easiest, imho.
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Ah, so essentially in the rules of this forum we can only go by feats which renders character useless when they have none. So Link could beat say, Shadow from Final Fantasy in nothing but hand to hand due to shadow having no feats. Works for debate I suppose, but not for anything with common sense. Congratulations on winning the debate, I suppose. Doesn't change what would actually happen
So, how about that "protection from Twilight" thing the Master Sword showed? With some help from the Triforce of Courage, Link does have proven supernatural resistances that do not affect only evil effects. Until the Soul Eater shows some way to pierce that resistance, I'm leaning towards the Master Sword no selling its ability.
As for fighting ability, skill is indeed difficult to quantify. Which is why I won't try and instead give Link's abilities:
Link's strength with Golden Gauntlets is through the roof. Enough to make up for a skill difference? Maybe, maybe not, but that would be rather difficult to block.
Twilight Princess Link is unique for being freakishly strong without an item, which is pretty nice. Tossing armored guys made of rock and large icebergs around is some good strength.
Ghirahim is capable of blowing through large stone walls in his weakest form. By the end of the game, Link can overpower Ghirahim's strongest form, often knocking him off balance when they clash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHtO9q7s66o#t=4m9s
Absolutely. If you don't have feats, you lose. Unless there's some statements for implied power or powerscaling available to be involved. This goes for comic debates as well--only over there they simply allow more room for tolerating subjectivity than here.
Don't know who the hell that is, but I'm amused by your butt hurt.
Why the hell would we give Tir the victory if he doesn't have the feats? lol. That's the only logic we have to present here.
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But it wouldn't. Until the master sword is partially responsible for the universe existing, I will never believe it is less powerful than the Soul Eater. But hold on to your opinion, for all the good it does.
Not butt hurt at all, just trying to understand things. I understand the whole feats thing, I just happen to think there are logical inconsistencies when talking about using only feats in videogames. Especially when it pertains to older RPG's. It essentially renders every RPG from the eighties through the mid nineties 100% ineffectual. It certainly isn't much of a true gauge, but I understand its all you van really quantify. Just kind of... Lame.
No but it neuters any potential debate you can have when you know who the clear winner is. If we went by implied power I suppose I could argue that since the soul eater is one of 27 things that made the universe, I guess I could argue that's more powerful than a blessing by angels, but it would be unquantifiable.
Again, I still know Tir would win. I just can't prove it by anything the forum would allow.
Yeah, it's just impossible to argue how powerful something is when all there is to go on is numbers that can't apply to other game universes. Implied power is nice (and to some extent usable) but it doesn't stand up to concrete feats.
'k, being one of 27 runes that created the universe is good. That's at least something to work with. The Master Sword has something similar. We all know it wrecks Ganon, the holder of the Triforce of Power. 1/3 of the Triforce, which is the Artifact of the goddesses who created the universe, and is capable of granting wishes and/or rewriting reality.
Triforce ~ creators of universe
Triforce of Power = 1/3 Triforce
Triforce of Power ~ 1/3 creators of universe
Master Sword > Triforce of Power
Master Sword > 1/3 Triforce
Master Sword > 1/3 creators of universe
That being the normal way of looking at it. In Skyward Sword, the Master Sword was also forged in the divine flames of the three goddesses as well. So is that good enough?
I would think it was enough if it WAS one of the forces that made the universe, but its not. It was only made by them. Doesn't equal the power in my opinion.
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