Okay, what about revenge against Batman for nearly killing him? What him going after Gotham again? What about him deciding to kill those who are criminals using his coin, as he's done in the comics? What about having him team up with another villain? Yes, his origin and revenge story is out of the way, but it doesn't mean that Nolan can't use him in at least one more story. There's 66+ years of stories to pull from, and we all know firsthand Nolan is brilliant when it comes to stories.
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Two-Face going after criminals with his coin can BARELY carry a movie... My version of Batman Forever (Batman: Scarred) has him doing that and carrying the movie on his own, but that's only because that's his first and probably only appearance in my movie universe, and his story wasn't told yet... That's not the case with Nolan's Two-Face...
His story has been told, and as much as you want to believe he'll come back and do all this stuff, he won't... His story is FINISHED... All loose ends were tied up... The most I could see him in the next one would be a VERY small role at the beginning, like Scarecrow from TDK... He won't be the main villain in the next one...
But I don't see Nolan bringing Two-Face back, even for a small role...
No that's not all it is. His hatred for the corruption in Gotham's police department and Batman and Gordon for ignoring it was also key. That was present even in Dent's pre Two Face persona. He could definitely continue to try to foil the department and get back at Gordon and Batman for not listening to him if he's still alive. Him dying is way lamer than that IMO.
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Finally! Someone gets it! I completely agree, and plus, it'd help to clear Batman's name. It'd be hella hard for them to accept him again at all if Two-Face were truly dead.
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just because they announced that he was dead you assume he is dead? AGAIN everybody thought gordon was dead as well but that wasnt the case either.Batman survived the landing,no reason to not believe Dent didnt as well.Like Selena said before,they would have been a LOT more broken up about it than they were if he had been.they dont lack compassion you know.AGAIN Nolan isnt an idiot comicbook director like Burton Schumacher and Raimi are,he's not going to start being an idiot now by killing him off building two face up like that and then we never get to see him again.AGAIN thats a Burton,schumacher and raimi thing to do.god some people just never listen,its like talking to a brick wall. i give up.its just going to go through one ear and out the other.its tiresome repeating something that just keeps going ignored.
I agree completely Mr Parker, why let the number one Batman villain survive, and let the second greatest Batman villain die? It'd just be better to use him again. These villain's are meant to be used more than once.
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Dude, we're not getting the Reaper. Eckhart has said many times that if he were asked he'd come back, he could very well come back, that's a big possibility. But truthfully, us seeing the Reaper is rather unlikely. If we don't get Two-Face, we'll get the Riddler as indicated by Gary Oldman.
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Just because he said he would come back if asked, doesn't mean he's gonna get asked...
And Riddler has been done to death already... Let's see something new...
You said Batman wouldn't be able to redeem himself if Two-Face didn't return, but he would... The Reaper would be perfect in that role... But mainstream movie fans are too ignorant to understand how perfect he'd be for the next one...
I really wish Nolan would throw us a curve ball like that instead of giving us what we EXPECT (Catwoman, Riddler, etc.)
Wait, we're ignorant because we don't want the Reaper in the movie? Truth is he won't be in the movie, and I could care less if he appeared in the movie or not, I want to see Two-Face again, and considering how he "died," it's a large chance he could return, especially if Nolan sees that enough fans want a Two-Face return.
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No, not because you don't want him in the movie...
Because most mainstream fans don't recognize him, he's automatically never gonna be in a Batman movie, and that truly disgusts me... Just because they don't know anyone other than Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Two-Face, and Riddler doesn't mean a good movie can't be made with someone else...
Begins is all the proof you need for my argument... Ras worked great in that movie, and most of the mainstream fans didn't recognize him...
So I stand by my opinion that Reaper would be ace in the next one (and you stand by yours that you don't want him, which is fine), and Two-Face won't return, despite how much everyone seems to want him to... Nolan's gonna surprise us, meaning it'll be someone we don't expect, and we're EXPECTING Two-Face or Riddler...
Reaper would be awesome. He'd make for an interesting fight with Batman.
Also, I really think Bane deserves to be redeemed. He does have the potential to be a "realistic" villain, and he's an awesome villain to boot.
We've had an exciting, creepy masked thug in the first movie along with a Ninja Master, we've had a two-faced killer and a homicidal maniac in the 2nd, to end the third with a *normal human being* who likes riddles would be the biggest god-damned let down ever.
Either Bane and Reaper, Bane and Black Mask [maybe too similar to Two-Face] or Bane and Harley Quinn.
It makes you look extremely foolish to call me ignorant because I don't want Reaper in the movie. That's like me saying you're ignorant because you don't want to see Two-Face again.
There are more Batman fans who know of all his villains than not, and a lot still want to see Two-Face reappear. I don't care about being surprised, I have a villain I want to see, which happens to be Two-Face and the Riddler. I could care less if he surprises us. Everyone knew we were getting the Joker, and were all excited to see him again, but when we're set to see villains like Two-Face & the Riddler "again" then it's a problem.
Btw, I said it once & I said it again, Tommy Lee Jones played a Two-Face in name only while Carrey portrayed a Riddler in name only. As far as I'm concerned "The Dark Knight" is the first time we got the Riddler in a live action movie, and if Nolan has the Riddler appear in the next movie, that'll be the first time we'll have gotten the Riddler.
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What you appear to not "get" is that films don't have to be mirror images of comics. You get at best a film every 2 years or so, you get comics monthly. Of course villains get reused in comics. But if you're making a series of 3 films, there's not the same problem and you don't have to resort to reusing bad guys again and again.
And as for your argument that "they faked Gordon's death, why not Dent's"... well, you pretty much answered your own question. Gordon's death was already faked; Nolan's not so cheap a director that he'd have to resort to the same trick over and over...
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Here's a question. I dont know if it's been answered yet, but Gordon tells Batman at the end of the movie when talking about Harveys recent actions "Five dead...two of them cops, you cant just sweep that up". So, who are the five dead, (Including the two dead cops)? I count 3 dead, 4 if you count Him, but also only 1 dead cop. Any suggestions?
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i give up.its just going to go through one ear and out the other.its tiresome repeating something that just keeps going ignored.
