Well since Nolan's batman seems to feature the villians who are demented in the head and have serious OCD issues such as the following we've seen, Mr. Zzaz, Scarecrow, Joker, Two-face.
Good candidates would be:
The Riddler
scarface/ventriloquist
Poison Ivy
Mr. Freeze
Though I think the penguin would be good as a mob boss though
Bat Dude said it best, maybe a cameo of some psychotic woman with a plant, but that's it. She's too unrealistic but the Penguin isn't, and he could work, but he'd have to be done by the right actor.
I still want Bane, though. We didn't get him right...or Mr. Freeze. And surprisingly, Mr. Freeze could be realistically done in this franchise.
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Yeah, I get it. I just think it's ridiculous to force these dramatic little references into a film when all they end up being are a distraction. It's a George Lucas tactic that fails to motivate the story and are really just attempts to sate a fan base.
Yeah I dont think two face is dead.You got to remember the police had everybody believeing Gordon was dead for his personal safety.I just dont see Nolan pulling a Burton on us and killing off an important villain part of the Batman universe.You just cant believe that he would build up the character of Harvey Dent like that and then become two face at the end of the movie and just have him killed off so I think we will for sure see Two Face in the next sequal.
I agree, it'd be pointless to kill off the second best Batman villain. In fact, I think Ra's should remain the only villain that died. I like that he died, because it made sense and it was what was best so Gotham wouldn't be destroyed, but pulling a Spider-Man franchise move would suck. I still think Jack should've came back as the Joker in Batman Returns instead of that damn Penguin. The more Joker & Two-Face, the better.
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I want Scarecrow to return with a somewhat larger role...maybe nearly as much screentime as the first movie, or a little less. The Scarecrow is just so awesome, and Cillian Murphy nailed the part.
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thats exactly what i said before Mr Parker. It is a great point that many people overlook, the people that think Two Face is dead probably just want to find something to complain about
Not necessarily, it's been left so that he could either really be dead, or he could easily return. With all the positive feedback going towards Eckhart's Two-Face, he could very easily return.
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Nolan did keep Two-Face revolving around 2s, in the background at least, therefore it is possible that he could return.
The address he was at: Two Fifty Fifty Second
I have some ideas how the story lines for some villains could go, as well as a 'realistic' Mr. Freeze.
Batman is now Gotham's villain, therefore a villain must become Gotham's hero. I think this will be true regardless of the choice of villain. This would best be established, to me at least, with the Riddler, as a sort of Sherlock Holmes. He is adored by the public as Dent was for capturing criminals, but becomes so obsessed by the riddle he can't solve "Who is the Batman?" that he starts to lose his mind. There would be a great deal of tension between him and Gordon, who he would easily deduce is hiding something from him. Bane could also work as a sort of professional bounty hunter who is addicted to a drug that gives him a temporary adrenaline boost. He could be brilliant as himself, I believe Bane was portrayed as very intelligent in the comics, but become stupid and violent under the influence of the drug.
I think that there doesn't have to be a secondary villain, but a good choice would be a re-imagined Mr. Freeze. If they took the TAS Freeze and made some modifications he could work out to be what Two-Face was in Dark Knight.
Freeze should still be a scientist, and he should be trying to cryogenically preserve his wife. He would work for a rival of Wayne Enterprises, if they were to forgo the Riddler it could be a company headed by the character of Hush.
He is stealing company funds for his research, which would probably be military in nature. His lab is to be seized there's a fight, something spills... Etc. He takes his wife and himself into the freezer, she would have to already have been frozen, and locks it. He becomes severely frostbitten trying to make sure she survives, hence the unusual skin, his eyes would be damaged from partially freezing, and his lungs could be damaged in a way that he could only breath pure oxygen.
He equips himself with some sort of cybernetic suit, one of the military contracts, carries the oxygen with him, wears some sort of welding goggles, and then starts killing people realizing that he 'feels nothing' as he does so.
(By the way, if you think that he would look to ridiculous. Freeze frame on Batman's costume in Begins or The Dark Knight, and stare at the ears for one full minute.)
Freeze would not have a magic 'freeze ray', but could kill people by injecting liquid nitrogen or dry ice into them. Think of one of those pneumatic hypodermic needles doctors use some times. This would preserve the ice motif and be realistic.
As for Victor Fries, he should be:
1. A nerd, someone you can believe that
Nora was his first and only love.
2. Younger than he would normally be cast.
I think it would sell the insanity better. Think of a
teenager that just broke up with their girlfriend.
3. NOT AUSTRIAN. This, unlike Batman and Robin, is not a
remake of Adam West's Batman.
Sorry for the length. I've had this stuck in my head for a week.
I'm still up for a Joker recast, but it's no biggie if it doesn't happen. At this point I'd actually really like to see Catwoman on the big screen again so that's where my vote is going.
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