I understand your points, but i think Riddler is rather realistic, he's a man with obsessive compulsive disorder, a desire to create riddles, he can be a real gritty villain.
Bane and Black mask would work well for a 3rd film, but i think Riddler can be adapted into the next film, even if it be a more recent adaptation where he is a private detective.
Riddler would be best for the third movie for sure. They could possibly include Killer Croc as well which he could possibly use as his muscle. Or, they could have Scarecrow have a bigger role and in addition to the Riddler, we get Scarecrow who has come up with an even more lethal fear toxin which he happened to test on Killer Croc, making him even worse than before. All of that could totally work.
__________________ You guys need to start taking things a little more seriously.
Scarecrow was made into a common crook in the TDK, which pissed me off since I'm a big Scarecrow fan. His movie use seems practically over to me and Killer Crox just seems to be less believable than Bane.
No, epic fail. Killer Croc in Gotham Knight looked realistic for a cartoon, but live action? Hell no. Bane would look more realistic, and although Croc has a rare skin disease, he's probably the best choice since they'll want just any villain to throw in the mix while Batman escapes the police and yadda yadda. They'll most likely have two villains, one minor and the other major. Croc doesn't seem to be anything major if he's to fit Nolan's world.
I actually agree that Bane is not a simple character. In the comics he is quite intelligent, and came up with a plan to systematically break Batman's mind and constitution, before literally breaking his back.
It is only in the cartoons that he is portrayed as a brick, and in the Schumaker (spelling wrong) movie where he is depicted as a brainless muscle-head.
However, his level of complexity in the Nolan universe would be far less than that required for someone like Catwoman. Which is why I included him there.
If that is too much, I also included people like Cain or Deadshot as replacements.
As complex as Bane may be, he is nowhere near as complex as someone like Catwoman. Doing a sophisticated latin American criminal mastermind who likes taking a physical angle as a coup de gras to finish a crippling mental game is far easier than having a lithe female who jumps from rooftop to rooftop and likes to purr.
Fair enough. I'm just ultra-defensive of Bane with certain morons on this forum who seem to think he's more like the character portrayed by some bullshit wrestler in Batman and Robin than the complex character of Knightfall. But, yes, OK... I see what you mean.
__________________
Thanks to Badwolf for the great sig!
Gender: Unspecified Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves
What I think might work quite nicely, would be Talia Al Ghul as the head of the League of Shadows and Bane as Ubu. Could work out, maybe in a sort of Contagion/Legacy fashion.
Now that is a pretty cool suggestion for what to do with Bane. I thought that arc was pretty good, and while Bane would need a fair bit of change (though no more than Scarecrow or the Joker required), that would be pretty damn cool...
__________________
Thanks to Badwolf for the great sig!
He is quite cool. My main problem with him is... would he come across as being a cheap copy of the Joker? I know he isn't in the comics, but the public at large would just see yet another insane, sadistic, facially deformed villain (yes, I know Joker wore make-up, but it comes to the same thing...), who manipulates the mob. Then again, I'm sure a director of Chris Nolan's quality could make Sionis work brilliantly...
__________________
Thanks to Badwolf for the great sig!
Well, Black Mask might bring in some "muscles" to his mind. He has done it before. That way it could grant an opening to introduce yet another villain but perhaps of lesser calibur. Ask me not who, but someone that would make a good movie team-up with Black Mask perhaps.
I still think the Riddler would be one of the best options because, like the Joker, he could really get into Bruce's head, and we for sure need to see more of that.
__________________ You guys need to start taking things a little more seriously.
The Riddler may be in the head business, and a good option for a villain, but he would not at all be able to get into Bruce's head like the Joker. He would get all other brain-muscles working though.
__________________ Obsidian Fury's quote of the day "Until this battle station is fully operational, we are vulnerable. The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped, they're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
I'm sure the fact that Nygma/ Nigma gets into Bruce's head is great, but we've already had that. In the Dark Knight, neither Harvey Dent nor the Joker could pose a convincing physical threat to Batman. In fact, the only one of the four 'super-villains' that Batman's faced in the series that could pose him a real threat in hand-to-hand was Ducard/ Ra's al Ghul. I'm pretty sure 'Batman 3' needs someone who can really hurt Batman physically as well as psychologically. That could mean Bane (who would, I think, still need a good deal of backstory, as would Nygma), The Reaper (who is unlikely to appear but would be pretty kick-ass), or maybe even Talia al Ghul (who would, presumabely, have been trained in the martial arts extensively by her father, and bring a load of similarly skilled henchmen). Of course, there are alternatives (NOT Killer Croc) and Nolan may yet prove me completely wrong...
__________________
Thanks to Badwolf for the great sig!
KMC Community Forums
Aug 13th, 2008 11:22 PM
