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Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by red g jacks
because most of us are raised to look at such behavior with disgust, so unless your childhood was completely ****ed there's probably a bit of wearing down before you decide it's ok to jack off to child porn.. and then eventually decide it's ok to recreate those scenes in real life..


Unless it's hardwired into you just like pretty much every paraphilia seems to be.


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It is illogical to assume that someone would choose to be a pedophile. Why anyone would elect to be something that is almost universally despised is beyond me.


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i don't really buy pre-determined sexual fetishes. i'm not saying it's impossible but i woundn't assume it to be true just based on the determination of the person with the fetish. every other part of our personality seems to be shaped by outside influences, why would sexuality be any different then any other character trait?


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Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
It is illogical to assume that someone would choose to be a pedophile. Why anyone would elect to be something that is almost universally despised is beyond me.



Uhhh, yeah...people do that all the time. Some people love negative attention. However, I don't think pedophiles would be that type. They love violating the innocents for some reason. I've heard looong and in depth reasons for the reasons, but most of it is lost to my memory. Who knows if those reasons are correct?


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Hyooge difference between being Ann Coulter and ****ing children.


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Uhhh, yeah...people do that all the time. Some people love negative attention.

Are you seriously saying that people choose to be pedophiles on a regular basis and that a person would actually do this for attention?


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Are you seriously saying that people choose to be pedophiles on a regular basis and that a person would actually do this for attention?



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Hyooge difference between being Ann Coulter and ****ing children.



You guys didn't get very far into my post, did you? You both should try reading beyond the first sentence in a post.

See below.



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However, I don't think pedophiles would be that type.


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You guys didn't get very far into my post, did you? You both should try reading beyond the first sentence in a post.

See below.

To be honest, those first two sentences caused me to not read further.


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To be honest, those first two sentences caused me to not read further.


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To be honest, those first two sentences caused me to not read further.


No worries.


I was making more of a general statement. Zeal was obviously NOT talking generally but his statement was general. I thought it important to put out there that some people love and crave negative attention. It's possible that there could be a pedo out there who loves people being afraid of him...but I don't know of any.


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100 years ago, from a legal stand point, you guys shouldn't have drunk alcohol.

But on the subject of the show, people's sick hatred towards paedos is the reason they watch it, to hate something so much you're happy to see people of that to be locked up and be traumatised themselves by being shown to be a sick ****, isn't right in my eyes. You should treat everyone with respect. It's like making a show about fat people who steal other people's food.


As BF said, your point there?

Again, stupid assertion. It's possibly (some) people watch it to be informed or find it humorous without having a "sick hatred", as you put it. I also find it funny that you classify someone who happens to hate pedophiles as being inherently "sick". Very odd.

Another extremely funny point, you claim "everyone should be treated with respect", yet you have shown utter disdain/disrespect for people like GW Bush, Republicans and several others which don't come to mind right now. It seems you really have no idea what you're going on about and are just ranting.


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Easy to say everyone should be treated with respect when it isn't your child who's been torn an adult sized one.


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The act of pedophilia really angers me, one thing is defiling an adult and another is a child. To what extend will thee entire human race actually sit there and go: "Okay, this time they've gone too far!" Since pedophilia is actually backed up by many.


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Originally posted by BackFire
You make it out that these pedophiles are somehow forced into the situation. Make no mistake, they put themselves there, they do it to themselves. It's completely and utterly, 100% their fault for knowingly attempting to take advantage of a child, breaking the law in the process.

And so because 100 years ago there were laws that we deem as silly today, that means the laws of today can be broken? What is your point?
What I'm saying is it's wrong to exploit people for being a sick ****, and I don't like people who enjoy seeing sick people getting caught because they're what they are.

My point is that leagality doesn't make something moral or not.

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As BF said, your point there?

Again, stupid assertion. It's possibly (some) people watch it to be informed or find it humorous without having a "sick hatred", as you put it. I also find it funny that you classify someone who happens to hate pedophiles as being inherently "sick". Very odd.

Another extremely funny point, you claim "everyone should be treated with respect", yet you have shown utter disdain/disrespect for people like GW Bush, Republicans and several others which don't come to mind right now. It seems you really have no idea what you're going on about and are just ranting.
Okay, I'll admit there are people who find it humourous or want to be informed. And I do treat republicans etc with respect, I still hate them. I hate the paedophiles too, but I wouldn't make a show about them where they're exposed and are portrayed as sick, whether you think they are or not, it's just not right to do that to someone, no matter who they are.


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It should be pointed out that internet predator actions are not likely to occur with a child younger than a teenager. It's not the same as a 5 year old child who TRULY has no idea what is going on.

Doesn't make it any better for the man but my point remains that the teenager is not all that naive. Legally, that have no responsibility but they do know what is about to happen.


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because most of us are raised to look at such behavior with disgust,


Yeah but think of all the people who are raised to think homosexuality is wrong and look at that with disgust...there are parallels here i think.


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The act of pedophilia really angers me, one thing is defiling an adult and another is a child. To what extend will thee entire human race actually sit there and go: "Okay, this time they've gone too far!" Since pedophilia is actually backed up by many.


Pedophilia is not an act, it is a thought.


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At the times the show is funny, but its probably stage. The reactions from some of them are just terrible acting.

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Easy to say everyone should be treated with respect when it isn't your child who's been torn an adult sized one.

Considering we're talking about teenagers, they would've be getting torn, it would already be adult sized.


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Pedophilia is not an act, it is a thought.


It can become an act though, and that is what he is talking about. There is nothing illegal about thinking about sex with a child- its when you download the porn or act on it by perusing a child that you break the law.


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What I'm saying is it's wrong to exploit people for being a sick ****, and I don't like people who enjoy seeing sick people getting caught because they're what they are.

My point is that leagality doesn't make something moral or not.

Okay, I'll admit there are people who find it humourous or want to be informed. And I do treat republicans etc with respect, I still hate them. I hate the paedophiles too, but I wouldn't make a show about them where they're exposed and are portrayed as sick, whether you think they are or not, it's just not right to do that to someone, no matter who they are.


No one's exploiting them. They're exploiting themselves, ironically, while attempting to exploit someone else. If they made the right decision then there'd not be a show. They drive themselves to the house, enter, and attempt to engage what they think is an underage girl. Every time they dig themselves into the situation. The show simply supplies the location and a chair, the pedos do the rest.

And frankly, legality is just about the only objective benchmark for morals for the time in which the laws are in place. They show that a large number of people think that the illegal act in question is unwanted in their society. And frankly, taking advantage of children and having sex with them is completely and logically immoral. You may not agree, but the law still must be obeyed. If not, then you knowingly accept the consequences.

And again, they're not portrayed as anything that they're not. They show up, get caught, then they just answer a bunch of question. If it comes across as if they're sick, that's also their doing, since they're the ones doing the talking.


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