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Endless Mike
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I heard it's 16 galaxies


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Originally posted by Vampire Savior
Could Brolly have beaten Super Perfect Cell?


Yes, and with consumate ease I might add, but, Majin Buu onwards? I doubt it...


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Yes, because for all his feats, he still got owned by pre SSJ3 characters.
Which has no relevance, the movie is not canon even to the noncanon anime, so the power hierarchy is not a factor. Broly by feats>>>All DBZ characters.


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The second point is that the planet Gokou lands on has it's surface all but destroyed and that his ki is still there even though he's gone. If he destroyed even part of the galaxy why would anything be left where his energy is and be partly destroyed. Not to mention Paragus had to get Broli under control, find a planet that was going to be destroyed by a comet soon, get all those aliens to said planet, and get out of the south galaxy and to Earth all in the time it takes for Gokou to get Kai's planet then to the south galaxy. It can't have all happened instantly.

Wasn't there giant floating rocks around?

There wasn't anything showing it shattered at all.

There really is no way to know how big it was or far but to say the others could hit it with a blast is wrong. It's not like Piccolo tried with his moon blast. So this is really pointless to argue. They're is feats of both Piccolo and Roshi hitting the moon without much trouble. Broli being stronger than both of them shouldn't really have trouble doing something even if it is farther nor should any of the Z fighters by Cell saga.
1. Or, he planned all this after Broly busted said galaxy. Broly's power was there because Broly was literally on the planet. He wiped out that planet's inhabitants, that was made clear.

2. Can't remember.

3. Yes, there was.

4. Meh.


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Which has no relevance, the movie is not canon even to the noncanon anime, so the power hierarchy is not a factor. Broly by feats>>>All DBZ characters.


Thats scemantics... thats just as irrelevant.

I gave my oppinion, and why.

Anything pre Majin Buu he'd beat, including Dabura... But Majin Buu onwards? there's no way he's beating guys like Janemba or Omega...


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Thats scemantics... thats just as irrelevant.

I gave my oppinion, and why.

Anything pre Majin Buu he'd beat, including Dabura... But Majin Buu onwards? there's no way he's beating guys like Janemba or Omega...
Sure he would.

His feats are far better.


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If thats all you have, and your also saying that because he's from a movie therefore can't be considered amongst the heirarchy, then your double dipping, essentially taking only the good, while refuting the bad.

Remember, It was once said that Buu busted a Galaxy, so if you want to play scemantics, then I already have someone WITHIN the heirarchy that has a comparative feat. Dare to compare?


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If thatsall you have, and your also saying that because he's from a movie therefore can't be considered amongst the heirarchy, then your double dipping, essentially taking only the good, while refuting the bad.

Remember, It was once said that Buu busted a Galaxy, so if you want to play scemantics, then I already have someone WITHIN the heirarchy that has a comparative feat. Dare to compare?
1. No I'm not. Broly and the characters in the movie are not present in the canon hierarchy, in the first movie Broly lost from a BS plot device, and in the second movie he was only killed by three Super Kamehamehas and his own blast sending him through the sun.

2. It was said that Buu eventually destroyed much of the galaxy. And that was in the anime if I remember right. In the manga it was never said that Buu destroyed a galaxy.


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1. No I'm not. Broly and the characters in the movie are not present in the canon hierarchy, in the first movie Broly lost from a BS plot device, and in the second movie he was only killed by three Super Kamehamehas and his own blast sending him through the sun.

2. It was said that Buu eventually destroyed much of the galaxy. And that was in the anime if I remember right. In the manga it was never said that Buu destroyed a galaxy.


#1: Cut it any way you wish, but it remains that Broly lost to an SSJ1 with an energy boost, and then 3 SSJ1 Kamehamehas... your inadvertently trying to set a double standard, by saying that A he has all the best feats, yet got wiped by characters at a level that couldn't beat Cell... You've gotta take the good WITH the bad.

#2: Well, Broly never busted an entire galaxy, which is his best feat... we don't even know HOW he did this, or if it was over a period of time...

Can this feat be quantified?


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#1: Cut it any way you wish, but it remains that Broly lost to an SSJ1 with an energy boost, and then 3 SSJ1 Kamehamehas... your inadvertently trying to set a double standard, by saying that A he has all the best feats, yet got wiped by characters at a level that couldn't beat Cell... You've gotta take the good WITH the bad.

#2: Well, Broly never busted an entire galaxy, which is his best feat... we don't even know HOW he did this, or if it was over a period of time...

Can this feat be quantified?
1. The SSJ power hierarchy does not count in the movies because the movies are not canon to the anime or manga...That is pretty basic shit.

2. He busted most of the South Galaxy Quadrant, which is 4 galaxies. We SAW the galaxy get busted instantly.


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1. The SSJ power hierarchy does not count in the movies because the movies are not canon to the anime or manga...That is pretty basic shit.

2. He busted most of the South Galaxy Quadrant, which is 4 galaxies. We SAW the galaxy get busted instantly.


#1: Then we'll have to do it by the power of the characters that defeated him, either way, the point still stands.

#2: South Galaxy Quadrant? Where is THAT stated, we only see a single galaxy get almost completely snuffed... Where are the other 3 galaxies even mentioned?

If this is an attempt to overhype the feat, I swear... mad


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#1: Then we'll have to do it by the power of the characters that defeated him, either way, the point still stands.

#2: South Galaxy Quadrant? Where is THAT stated, we only see a single galaxy get almost completely snuffed... Where are the other 3 galaxies even mentioned?

If this is an attempt to overhype the feat, I swear... mad
1. Or we go by Broly's feats(which blow all other DBZ character's feats away). Since the movie is noncanon, their powerlevels are not necessarily the same as they are in canon. It's like Gouki destroying the asteroid with a punch in CFE.

2. When people refer to the North or South galaxy, they are in fact referring to the Quadrants. From the Daizenshu.


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#1: Or not, since all that does is overhype a character past what he was able to actually beat when faced with a force that couldn't hope to match it normally, If this becomes purely a featwar, then all you have to say is "Galaxy Bust FTW!!!1!111", which, as you can see, he didn't do. AND, he lost to a guy who would be "Pyron compared to an ant" difference in power...

Feat Wars FTL

#2: Now that I will need proof of...


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#2: South Galaxy Quadrant? Where is THAT stated, we only see a single galaxy get almost completely snuffed... Where are the other 3 galaxies even mentioned?


The DBZ Universe is divided up into four different quadrants, with Kaioshins ruling over an individual quadrant (the Dai-Kaioshin rules over it all). Then, the quadrants themselves are divided up into four, with a Kai ruling over each individual sub-quadrant (in the Anime the Grand Kai rules over each of the sub-quadrants, apparently reporting to the respective Kaioshin directly). That's how the DBZ universe is divided up in the daizenshu.


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There are god knows how many Galaxys in eahc quadrant, people lame ass attempts to make the DBZ verse seems smaller than it is dont work, the DBZ verse like Darth Macabre said is split into 4 quadrants, and within eahc quadrant theer is a main Galaxy which one of the Kais ( King Kais level) watch over. Broly destroyed one of the Galaxys in the southern Quadrant, unlikely the main one which the south Kai watches over, as he would have been in the movie !
I feel so sorry for the south quadrant lol, Broly, Buu and Hirudergarn all first shwoign up in that quadrant ...unlucky sad


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Broly, while being my second favorite DBZ villain, is overrated.


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Broly, while being my second favorite DBZ villain, is overrated.
Because his feats in DBZ are second to none?


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Second to none? Silly boy, they are not. He didn't even destroy an entire galaxy, only a few planets out of the galaxy. Cell & Majin Buu could've done so on a much larger scale.


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Based on nothing.

Cell's most powerful blast was stated by him to be Solar System leveled, and let's face it...He was prolly just bragging.

Buu's strongest blast could destroy Earth 10 times over, and btw...Vegeta and Goku were unable to stop thaf blast.

Broly(by King Kai's words) destroyed most of the South Galaxy.


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Yeah, but he's far overrated. There are idiots out there who think he can beat Superman, Galactus, Super Buu with Gohan & Gotenks absorbed, and even God. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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