Democracy Now! interview with Col. Sam Gardiner, retired Air Force Colonel. He has taught strategy and military operations at the National War College, Air War College and Naval War College. His recent posts on Georgia have appeared on the blog NewsDissector.org.
logic dictates that yes, but then they'll fight Russia... reason enough to slightly adjust their views on it and not get involved.
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Yeah, I think it's very unlikely that they ever would. I was just trying to think from the Georgian perspective, as to how they've rationalised this nutcase move.
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1) Killing civilians is a direct threat to civil rights so that's a moot point.
2) The U.S. ran into TWO countries in an undemocratic fashion so it would just add to the hypocrisy. Saying you are "freeing the people" doesn't mean shit.
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You have to choose your battles. Sometimes you can help, sometimes you can't. Right now, Georgy should just lay down and oblige to the Russians... and leave the fighting for another time.
The world cannot contain another conflict. Everything is messed up already.
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The offer was supposed to have been suspended because Germany and France along with other countries tried to block Georgia's acceptance. America was really the only one that was pushing for it.
The reports about mercenaries shouldn't be taken as credible. Unless photos come forward and can be substantiated as true, then it will become an issue.
American military transport planes were used to ship Georgian troops straight from Iraq to Tiblisi to fight so apart from american troops on the frontline...they cant get more directly involved...
Georgia were not promised NATO membership. The US told them that it was very possible- but it was a blank check, a check they found they couldn't cash in when the took it to the bank. (In the words of an American Political Analyst on the BBC)
Fact is, does anyone want a war?
No, the United States and Britain wouldn't be able to fight one, they are tied down in the Middle East- besides they don't want to fight one anyway.
A peanut where the world's powers seem to want influence.
Like I'm saying, I don't think there is anyone who wants conflict, but couldn't russian aggression force NATO's hand much like Georgia's did Russia?
Its totally possible nothing would happen, but pretend Russia attacks Tbilisi to remove the President and decides that Georgia is once again Russia. My fear is that American and NATO commitments may occur before any rational response, or imagine that American troops who are in Tbilisi (no real indications that they are) die in a Russian bombardment. That almost requires American military response.
If they're american tropps there and they die, it will pass under silence. USA cannot afford another war. The only reason they would defend this territory is because it gives them a strategic emplacement in Eastern Europe. But I don't think that's a priority for Bush right now, nor in the couple of years coming. So the government will most likely quiet this situation down.
Some did. France most definitely wanted revenge on Germany and its debatable whether Germany wanted war to show their greater power than the other nations.
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Aug 12th, 2008 06:24 PM
Could you imagine if some tiny country, let's say Serbia, was partially responsible for sparking off a world war?
