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Dark Riddick
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b/c slade taking on the JLA and having them fall to their own stupidity wasnt? plus slade pullin an asinine power he never had b4 at that moment like seeing the atom while he was subatomic.


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Give me a break. The Hulk example is PIS. If you want to count that, then you should count stupid things like Batman going toe to toe with Grodd or Grundy.


And someone who goes H2H for multiple panels with street levelers, taking on th entire JLA is NOT PIS? lol. Evading Superman ..a bein who can fly and react at multipletimes light speed. Are you kidding me with that JLA PIS bullshit?


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Of course. A LOT of that crap is PIS. Karate Kid going toe to toe with Mon-el is PIS too!

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For the last time cap ftw.


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How?

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b/c slade taking on the JLA and having them fall to their own stupidity wasnt? plus slade pullin an asinine power he never had b4 at that moment like seeing the atom while he was subatomic.
Fall to their own stupidity? He easily beat them by exploiting their weaknesses. What do you even mean by that?

Seeing atom was simply a testament to his 1000x increased senses, which he has been stated to have since about day 1.

I don't understand what you're whining PIS for.
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And someone who goes H2H for multiple panels with street levelers, taking on th entire JLA is NOT PIS? lol. Evading Superman ..a bein who can fly and react at multipletimes light speed. Are you kidding me with that JLA PIS bullshit?


You guys are still low-balling Slade

lol, he was displayed engaging a team on his first issue. He was introduced as a singular threat to the teen titans, by himself, so why would it by irrational for him to carry on that image in later appearances and on different teams?(other than you just not being okay with it, I mean).

Slade beating teams is not them jobbing, it's his original intent and formmidability shining through. Most often, he jobs to street-levelers, although if you actually took the time to examine many of these encounters, you'd find that He, along with those street-levelers have no confusion concerning who is the superior being.

Half the street-levelers that DS is seen "struggling" with have admitted themselves that they're no match for him, or that they know he's not giving it his all. Hell, half of those characters have other appearances against Slade where he wtf pounds them with minimal effort. His CIS is simply a plot device to give a street-leveler a chance against an opponent who levels teams and much larger threats, even wiithout prep at times.

He evaded Superman because he under-estimated him, but let's not forget that Slade has genuine superhuman reflexes, which have even been said to maybe even tops WW's.

You really should take a closer look at some of these feats before you go and criticize them.

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For the last time cap ftw.


lol, yeah right.

I guess I'll just have to be content with the fact that you couldn't even come close to supporting that opinion of yours.


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Ok. Let's do this on a point by point basis.

Who would win in an arm wrestling contest?
Who would win in a race?
Who would win in a gymnastics competition?
Who would win in a boxing match?
Who would win in a martial arts match?
Who can recover the fastest?
Who has the best enhanced senses?
Who can wield the most weapons the most effectively?
Who consistantly beats the most dangerous opponents?

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Ok. Let's do this on a point by point basis.

Who would win in an arm wrestling contest?
Who would win in a race?
Who would win in a gymnastics competition?
Who would win in a boxing match?
Who would win in a martial arts match?
Who can recover the fastest?
Who has the best enhanced senses?
Who can wield the most weapons the most effectively?
Who consistantly beats the most dangerous opponents?


1.Slade
2.Slade, I guess.
3.Slade's more agile because his super-senses give him added manueverability that Cap doesn't have, and he has faster reflexes. He has actually stated more than once that he has complete control over his body.
4.Cap is probably more skilled, if that's what you mean.
5.Slade's healing factor makes him virtually immortal. His heart has been cleaved in two....he grew a new one. nuff said.
6. 1000x enhanced senses>Steve
7. Slade has been stated to be a master of all weapons.
8.Slade, no contest whatsoever.


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And someone who goes H2H for multiple panels with street levelers, taking on th entire JLA is NOT PIS? lol. Evading Superman ..a bein who can fly and react at multipletimes light speed. Are you kidding me with that JLA PIS bullshit?

Have you ever considered that maybe him giving superspeedsters trouble isn't the PIS part and maybe since he's a Metahuman him having trouble with streetlevelers is the PIS?

Just food for thought.


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Have you ever considered that maybe him giving superspeedsters trouble isn't the PIS part and maybe since he's a Metahuman him having trouble with streetlevelers is the PIS?

Just food for thought.
Exactly thumb up


most logical thing I've heard all day.


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Have you ever considered that maybe him giving superspeedsters trouble isn't the PIS part and maybe since he's a Metahuman him having trouble with streetlevelers is the PIS?

Just food for thought.


So basically what was said before... in spite of both of them being enhanced. Slade's PIS examples are up for grabs while we're beckoned to toss out Cap's. ridiculous.


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So basically what was said before... in spite of both of them being enhanced. Slade's PIS examples are up for grabs while we're beckoned to toss out Cap's. ridiculous.

I never tried to downplay Cap's feats. I think its just obvious that DS is by and large more impressive.


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I never tried to downplay Cap's feats. I think its just obvious that DS is by and large more impressive.


Then you're going to meet a TON of people in this thread compelled to disagree.


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Then you're going to meet a TON of people in this thread compelled to disagree.

They're welcome to disagree.

I took offense to Slade lowballing that was reaking in this thread, that's it.

You can believe what you want about Cap being DS's equal. Personally I think Cap is closer to Batman than he is to Slade.


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So basically what was said before... in spite of both of them being enhanced. Slade's PIS examples are up for grabs while we're beckoned to toss out Cap's. ridiculous.
Slade's PIS examples? Which would be what? Nothing mentioned in this thread, that's for sure.


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While i think Salde wins, i dont believe for a second the whole Steve can't hurt him at all and can't touch him etc. basicallywhile i think hes superhuman i think all the class 100 can't phase him at all and hes faster then wonder woman etc is crap


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which is a problem. Aside from his showings against teams engulfed in CIS he lacks the sheer showings that outstrip Cap, and his feats against Batman don't give him some massive edge, quite the opposite.

But if we look at Cap's showings against similar opponents to Bats like DD, he's virtually got the same type of advantage against human opponents.


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Can Slade regrow body parts?


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Slade's PIS examples? Which would be what? Nothing mentioned in this thread, that's for sure.
laughing out loud take your pills.


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which is a problem. Aside from his showings against teams engulfed in CIS he lacks the sheer showings that outstrip Cap, and his feats against Batman don't give him some massive edge, quite the opposite.

But if we look at Cap's showings against similar opponents to Bats like DD, he's virtually got the same type of advantage against human opponents.
Slade isn't a human. He's meta. and DD is not like Batman. Batman is way better than DD.

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