1. lol, Cap has better durablity feats based on what? You just say these things completely blind to whether they're true or not, don't you?
2. Batman's high end durability feats probably exceed feats of people with 50 class durability and on up, but any rational poster knows Batman's normal level of endurance/durability does not surpass Slade's meta levels.
The fact that anyone's even attempting to argue about healing factors concerning these two characters is utterly mind-boggling to me. It just goes to show how far some of you guys will go.
lol. Slade regrew a heart outside of that series. He recovered from a gunshot to the head in moments outside of that series. He was stabbed through the chest jericho style outside of that one series and recovered without even taking time to stop fighting. In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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LOL, this is about as good of an argument as any of these guys have displayed. Welcome to the club buddy
Let see durability feats in taking a thrashing from Ironman in Civil War to another time a blood lusted Ironman. Not to mention from Namor to boot. Or how about surviving inside the core of a nuclear oven or being used as the wrecking ball itself and having said building crash upon you after you were used as said ball.
The fact that you are even arguing this is mind boggling but then again you think Slade is stronger then Cap despite the lack of evidence. But then again this is that type of poster that I'm talking too so that goes to much without saying.
Donna and Diana are more powerful than everyone you named, and deathstroke has gone toe to toe with both of them, taking their blows, and giving them back. Not only that, but Slade's feats like these are actually legit because they've been happening from his conception til now, unlike those high end Cap feats you keep restating for no reason. They're are an actual measure of what he does consistently. You guys act like you don't know the difference between a character all of a sudden having a showing way above his powerset/formiddability, and a character being displayed according to what he's already been shown capable of doing for some time.
arguing what? that Slade has better durability? That's as mind boggling as someone trying to pass off Steve Rogers as having a comparable healing factor to someone who's HF makes them immortal? Are you mentally challenged?
My friend, you are the only one who's making comments with no basis whatsoever. You come out and say Cap has better strength feats, then you say he has better durability feats. You simply have no idea what you're talking about. You're supposed to have a general knowledge of both characters before you post your opinion in these matches. You obviously don't.
My basis for saying Cap doesn't have better strength feats is the fact that I've seen pretty much all of both of these characters strength feats. Those feats you keep posting as reason Cap is stronger, I sent you(got 'em from DB). member?
some one's attitude needs to change b4 he gets the boot..
anyways iy doesnt matter who has the best healing factor obviously slade but it doesnt matter since it wont come into play during battle since neither of their healing factors are high enough to matter.
also slade fighting diana or taking a hit is PIS at its highest or her holding back massively take your pick.
also when donna was with the teen titans her strength did not rival diana her character was still not pinned down plus the strength scale was also massively different then what they are either way it doesnt matter.
2. Slade's healing factor is high enough for him to keep fighting when he gets stabbed through the chest or keep attacking through penetrating gunfire. He's been shot in the head and recovered in moments. How on earth is his HF not high enough to be a factor in this match? What's up with these ridiculous statements, seriously?
3.Diana was holding back, she said so herself, and I mentioned that as well, but he's also fought Donna after she went darker so she wasn't holding back. Starfire too.
Call what you wish PIS, but whatever a character's been doing since day 1 till now doesn't constitute PIS. Blindly ignoring the fact doesn't make it go away.
4.He's fought Donna after she was with darkstar and after she got her cosmic looking costume.
5.lol, And you wonder why I can't take half you guys seriously?
Cap murders Slade h2h? Based on what exactly? Nevermind, I sure you're so-called logic behind that answer would be hysterical, but also an utter waste of time to read.
slade has taken shots to his armor and survived when his son shot him.. the armor took the brunt and yes hf did the rest but, he still went down..
but, in another instance he went down to what three shots to the chest from Deadshot where was the famous HF then...
taking shots and surviving is fine but they still injure him and he has bn taken down enough to be considered a loss on his behalf..
sure he has also taken stabs and kept fighting so what it depends where those stabs take place... he has also gone down to joker stabbing him in the throat. again he went down.
now for blunt force trauma he left limping from batman when he fought him and then was taken down by a second guy again his hf wasnt a factor and showed that it did not help him in those instances..
now for kory back in the 80's her strength was not WW lvl and was only describe as having the strength of 50 men in her bio.. again the strength scales were massively different from what they are now
including donna.
now if you want to argue slade taking hits and not dying that is fine but its all pis.. either way any high lvl impact from WW lvl beings would slice through him he wouldnt survive them neither would cap.. its called suspension of disbelief but whatever you want them to count as a durability power that is fine go ahead but then dont dismiss cap's own pis moments.
like blocking thunderstrike angry mace strike with his shield feeling the impact flying toward a wall and kicking off it back to thunderstrike and hitting him hard enough to knock him off his feet..
dont dismiss cap being hit by hulk or cap knocking out hulk..
dont dismiss cap ko'ing rhino or any other class 50 and up....
cap has a far longer career then slade with far more pis consistent stories then slade.
1.Slade has taken shots that penetrate his armor and kept going. Examples of lower showings mean squat.
2.it was six shots, and slade has taken more penetrating bullets than that without even being incapacitated(actually still fighting).
3. sigh, again, there are multiple examples of Slade taking shots and not going down, sure they injure him, but that's what his HF is for.
4. He's been stabbed through the chest from behind and kept fighting.And are you sure it was the joker's knife that subdued Slade, or Jokers goons and the chains that were holding him as they threw him in the ocean.lol, seriously, while he was underwater he even mentioned that he may be down there for eternity due to his HF if he coudln't escape. Is that impressive enough for you?
5. He's taken shots from Diana and Donna. And in their second fight, Bruce's hits were no more than an annoyance to Slade. And what do you mean a second guy put him down? who?
Actually Slade may have even been depowered completely or partially during those instances. I remember his attributes started to fail him right around when he was interacting with bats in that series.
Also, being hurt by Batman is not really a good example to use if you wanna try and demean someone's durability. The best of DC comic character's, despite their class and ranking, have fallen victim to the batkick and/or punch.
6. Again, he's fought Donna in many different stages of her career.
7. I've said repeatedly that Diana was pulling punches, but you don't seem to read those parts or something.
lol, If it's consistent from conception how is it PIS? The high-end feats that some have thrown out for Cap obviously are due to the fact that they are not the norm in any way, shape, or form.
Doesn't matter who's career is longer. Whether or not the feats displayed are consistent throughout the character's career, however long it is, is what matters.
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oh, and he could survive hits from an enraged WW, unless she completely obliterated him. Let's say she punches a hole through his chest, knocking his heart out. He's incapacitated, he grows a new one, and resurrects. He's immortal. That's how it works.
then you are being massively hypocritical if you only want to count slades high end limited showing and dismiss caps laundry list that surpass slades as all pis..
cap has consistently fought high end bricks and survived their hits gotten up and kept fighting..
his armor has also taken some pretty high lvl damage including being bit by ulik without damage and even being complimented by ironman..
he has also fully healed from the injuries given to him by ironman within what? two issues... something like a two days within the span of the story if that?
how many times has slade struggled one on one that is part of his character which obviously can be used in a forum b/c he is stupid enough to try and go h2h..
Do you not get the difference between some feat that's completely unjustified by a character's history and Slade's?
If Slade has been fighting Donna from day one and several times since then, then how could one chalk up a feat of him fighting her or diana as PIS? It doesn't make any sense.
Let's get one thing staright, Cap doesn't have a luandry list of anything that surpasses slade. Sure, more appearances equals more feats, but that means squat if they are not routine or if the character is not being shown at ther level of formmidability that he has had forever. Also, the vast majority of what you guys have named are not more impressive anyway.
Cap doesn't fight high level bricks routinely. You can keep saying so, but that only diminshes your creditability.
lol, I love when guys try to make speculations like that and use them as feats. If you wanna start with recovery between issues, I could give you a million characters who are miraculously recovered from what seemed to be the most grievous wounds between issues.
How many times has slade struggled one on one with who?
Stupid enough to go h2h? lol, like that puts him at some kind of disadvantage.
Then again, you did say Cap murders him h2h right........ considering that, why am I even still replying to you? It's obvious you are somewhat delusional with statements like that
You do realize that Slade has fought Donna during many stages of her development? Including after her time with Darkstar and when she had the cosmic looking outfit, which is pretty darn current.
I have to go with Cap on this one and reading through the posts which, by the way, took a great deal of time generally consists of namorsubby calling for more evidence and completely discounting anything posted in Caps favor. I have seen in various other threads that he consistently high ends slade while discounting Caps abilities. Now I am not saying that Slade is by any means a weakling but his history is a lot shorter and in that time the consistency of high end feats just isn't there. Also MU and DCU vary greatly in what their characters have a tendency to face i.e. human like characters in DC tend to face characters with a durability that they can defeat or have weaknesses to be exploited by a larger number of "thinker" heroes and villains. MU tends to go for the bigger flashier fight style where human level characters will take blows from and return blows to apocalyptic beings capable of annihilating entire planets with relative ease. However that is not to say that DC doesn't have a large number of immensely powerful heroes and villains I just mean to say that it tends to do a better job of keeping the characters within a range of strength. I mean I don't see batman taking Lobo on in a straight fist fight and yet someone like mystique in MU will break Colossus's face in.
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