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Gaara vs. Sandman
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Magee
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Spider-Man beats Gaara and so does Sandman. Sandman is class 50+ tonne easy there is no way Gaara could even hope to survive one hit. Also before the fanboys start crying, Rock Lee is no where near that strength, he is barely in the 1 tonne range. Gaara has even less of a chance if its time skip because he has no automatic shield, not that it could survive hits from some one of Sandman's strength.

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Sandman is class 75 normally, but can condense his punches to class 100 force.

I don't know if Spiderman could beat Gaara...Seems like a bit of a stretch.


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I wouldn't say spiderman is nearly as fast not even close. Do you seriously put spidermans speed on par or even close to Rock Lee's? I would like to think you don't but you say you do. His precog is most likely on par with Gaara's defense in terms of keeping up with attacks. I would agree though that sandman hits harder. In terms of spiderman being stronger than Rock Lee even that's debatable when it comes to combat strength.

How much weight does Rock Lee have on his body? Do you see the damage that is done when he tosses them off? Also by manga and the series even the movies(if you count them) Rock Lee is stronger than spidey in combat. The kid creates creates in many of his serious battles.

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Originally posted by razor4life
How much weight does Rock Lee have on his body? Do you see the damage that is done when he tosses them off?
Consider we have no idea how durable the floor was and also the fact they dropped from quite a height they would not have to weigh much at all. Maybe 500lbs and that is being generous.

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Originally posted by razor4life
I wouldn't say spiderman is nearly as fast not even close. Do you seriously put spidermans speed on par or even close to Rock Lee's? I would like to think you don't but you say you do. His precog is most likely on par with Gaara's defense in terms of keeping up with attacks. I would agree though that sandman hits harder. In terms of spiderman being stronger than Rock Lee even that's debatable when it comes to combat strength.

How much weight does Rock Lee have on his body? Do you see the damage that is done when he tosses them off? Also by manga and the series even the movies(if you count them) Rock Lee is stronger than spidey in combat. The kid creates creates in many of his serious battles.
Spiderman easily dodges bullets. Rock Lee has never dodged anything that fast. No it really is not.

Rock Lee's weights are AT BEST one ton each. Nothing to Spidey. Rock Lee has never created a crater in combat without opening Gates.


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Sandman can press 170.000 pounds


I just thought I would quote myself. That is roughly 80 ton, is it not? Besides, that is PRESS. A punch comes with a lot more force.


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spiderman dodges gunfire because of his precog. to even THINK that parker has a chance against gaara is pure ignorance. gun fire wudnt be much at all to dodge to a good ninja in naruto. and how much did gamabunta's knife weight, seeing that its a solid piece of metal about a sky scrapper high.

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Precognition is not the whole case, now is it? Even with precognition, you need matching skills in order to preform a successful dodge.


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spiderman dodges gunfire because of his precog. to even THINK that parker has a chance against gaara is pure ignorance. gun fire wudnt be much at all to dodge to a good ninja in naruto. and how much did gamabunta's knife weight, seeing that its a solid piece of metal about a sky scrapper high.
Prove ANYTHING in Naruto moves as fast as a bullet.

I would say it weighs at best 50 tons. It may be like 50 feet long, but it is only about 6 feet wide at best.


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spiderman dodges gunfire because of his precog. to even THINK that parker has a chance against gaara is pure ignorance. gun fire wudnt be much at all to dodge to a good ninja in naruto. and how much did gamabunta's knife weight, seeing that its a solid piece of metal about a sky scrapper high.
Are you trying to say Gaara is fast? He is the slowest ninja in the damn series, he doesnt even move during a fight. Not like his sand is incredibley fast either, nothing Spider-man could not doge. Applying real world physics liek the speed of a bullet to Naruto just doesn't work as there are no real comparisons, you can't really prove any of them could dodge a bullet as there are no numbers to work with.

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So know people are saying Spider-Man > Gaara?? What the...Spider-Man probably has the ability to dodge most of what Gaara can do depending on if Gaara can only use his sand or if they are in a place with a lot of sand..but no way Spidey is hitting Gaara.


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but no way Spidey is hitting Gaara.
We don't even know if he still has his auto sand shield and he didn't use it after the time skip. Spider-Man could more than likely punch right through his sand. You can't prove his shields would stand up to punches with 20 tonnes of force behind them. Rock Lee is no where near that strength, not at all and he is the only person to have punched his sand sheild. Spider-man could still bypass it with agility, he just needs to hit different spots fast enough which is not hard for him.

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Uh... Are we still talking about Gaara vs. Sandman or are we now talking about Spidey vs. Gaara and Lee?


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Well, this is a Gaara Vs. Sandman thread, but I think the Naruto people are having a hard time dealing with the fact that one with a named possibly thought up by a 5 year old and a villain of a silly webslinger can beat the mighty Gaara, so I think the debate is more now what type of strength and fighters that we are dealing with

To quote a friend of mine:


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I hate seeing hate seeing biased remarks. This is where I expect someone from the anime board to say some stupid feat about Gaara doing something that by all intents he shouldn't(and they know it) be able to do. Like "well Gaara beat Rock Lee so bleh"


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People were just doing what I call b!tch debating and bringing up how Sandman has lost to Spiderman, now this thread is about Spiderman vs. Gaara.


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A>B>C logic. Gotta hate it.


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I recall you using it a few times in the past DK.


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he has people just bash that logic when it doesn't work in their favor. We have all used said logic at some point. Yes it is a flawed way. Also I've always taken the cartoons and certain extended marvel created media of Spider-man as canon towards his speed.

Certain people though register to character myth instead of the actual character. Spider-man is fast but some register to the myth based speed instead of how he actual moves and fights.

Please if your gonna bring in Spider-God then this isn't a debate this is you doing anything you can to make your favorite character win. The comics are not the only canon source for Hero abilities. The extended universes that are marvel licensed tend to portray the character as they are in comics. Live action movies excluded. Yet when certain people from the comics see that the cartoons don't adhere to the myth they right it off. Even when it's backed by the comic book company.

Please people get this idea out of your head that Spider-man moves and fights at these mind boggling speeds you have in your heads. We have rock lee in manga and anime moving faster than people can keep up with and juggling them in the air. He also has created craters without opening gates, but after removing weights. Heck by the anime and manga(can show proof if your thick headed) Rock Lee breaks the sound barrier when he fights. If your gonna tell me Spidey does that then I give up. Also for the love of god spider-mans precog anticipates bullets it doesn't dodge them after fire.

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Also I would give the win to sandman over gaara. Just not Shukaku gaara though. Gaara doesn't move fast and sandman is much stronger. Oh jesus i keep forgetting to use edit button to add replies jebuz i'm on too many different forums lolz.

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Originally posted by razor4life
he has people just bash that logic when it doesn't work in their favor. We have all used said logic at some point. Yes it is a flawed way. Also I've always taken the cartoons and certain extended marvel created media of Spider-man as canon towards his speed.

Certain people though register to character myth instead of the actual character. Spider-man is fast but some register to the myth based speed instead of how he actual moves and fights.

Please if your gonna bring in Spider-God then this isn't a debate this is you doing anything you can to make your favorite character win. The comics are not the only canon source for Hero abilities. The extended universes that are marvel licensed tend to portray the character as they are in comics. Live action movies excluded. Yet when certain people from the comics see that the cartoons don't adhere to the myth they right it off. Even when it's backed by the comic book company.

Please people get this idea out of your head that Spider-man moves and fights at these mind boggling speeds you have in your heads. We have rock lee in manga and anime moving faster than people can keep up with and juggling them in the air. He also has created craters without opening gates, but after removing weights. Heck by the anime and manga(can show proof if your thick headed) Rock Lee breaks the sound barrier when he fights. If your gonna tell me Spidey does that then I give up. Also for the love of god spider-mans precog anticipates bullets it doesn't dodge them after fire.
...So now the noncanon aspects of comics are canon? no expression

That's bullshit.

And Rock Lee in the canon manga has NEVER broken the sound barrier or created a crater without the Gates.


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