1. wrong on account of evidence presenting and you presenting none
2. wrong on account of being disproven my evidence while you again, presenting no evdience of your own
3. wrong, stop is not OPTIONAL magic, it is part of the storyline with ensuing game dialogue{ofcourse u havent played it so.......}
4. if the magic is dependant on the guardians than how come there can be different guardians for the same thing???? are you saying that aerial, with her oh so great infinite magic cudnt stop the assault of the other guardian which killed her? ur DEAD wrong and stupid, the GUARDIANS are dependant on the pillars for their powers. the pillars and all of nosgoth are the SOURCE, the guardians are merely the control panels.
as for WHEN.............. hmmmm. kuja destroyed an entire planet. necron and ultimecia would have destroyed all of space and time and EXISTANCE itself in the entire universe, ex death would have sucked in all dimensions..........i cud go on.
again, give me the highest FEATS of magic in legacy of kain and lets compare them with magical feats in kingdom hearts, go on, im wating.
burning thought, said the above. trying to compare legacy of kain to dmc and ff. i was merely replying to him to tell im how follish he is for thiking that legacy of kain is even in the same league as these franchises in terms of power.
1. Youven ot presented any evidence....you need to have a look you see
2. above
3. I said gameplay because theres no storyline reason why Sephiroth other then being a gameplay boss would be immune
4. There was only one guardian that killed her, and that was Mortainious who stabbed her in the back. There are diffrent guardians for diffrent uses of magic....what are you talking about for the same thing? the guardians are indeed dependant on the pillars because hte pillars are the source to tap into the magic of nosgoth, however the balance guardian links the others to this power, thus they are weak without it
ive alrdy given you them, problem is all those characters were defeated either by kids or something ridiculous...thus their power is irrelvent since its obviously massively limited. LOK have sections of all diffrent magic schools, energy, nature, and before those the ancients could banish races to other dimensions, using time portals as well as dimesion powers Azimoth the planar took a being from another dimension AND time and brought it back....she could do this to anyone in FF and have them killed.
3. it is because he is more powerful than the magic used.
4. again, ur blabbering. i asked u a simple question. how do you die if your the balance guardian and are posessed of infinite magic? u cudnt answer, thats good. also, you go on to dislaim many of the statements u urself made. now you DO admit that its the land and pillars which give the guardians magic and not the other way about.
defeated by children? lets see now
ff-6 massively powerful summoner and team beats kefka
ff-7 a clone, with powers rivalling sephirtoh, jenovah's cells, akong with massively powerful summoner, mage, brawler with geographic oomph, super tech user beats sephiroth
ff-8 a team of the best soldiers, all armed with extreme magic and summons{world ending} as well as a special link to the sorcerress and another socerred in their team who can rewind time wins
ff-9, two planet wide powerful summoners, one mage who can summour a doomsday meteor, one of the strongest knights in the kingdom, and the antagonist who was said to have greater potential for power than even kuja along with the hopes of all existance beats the final foe.
i cud go on but whats the point.....
ur las point is moot on basis of lack of power to do such a hting.
4. blabering? i think thats prob why yu know nothing of LOK, you pressed ESC at every cutscene and thats if you even played the games, Ariel was killed by only one guardian which was from behind having infntie magic doesnt make you passively invulerable.
Ive never said the Guardians give the land magic, when did I say that?
Yet most of these teams are puny beings, wheres the evidence of all this? wheres the proof? your words? yh right...ime not beliving your words, you think the EG got buried.. you prob dont understand storylines.
No tell me the canon, not the "they were armed with gameplay powerz!" the people themselves were mostrly kids, show me please
Theres no lack of power, as ive told you shes dont it to beings before, so she could do it to anyone in FF,they have no resistance.
not really because
A: this is gameplay, if you want to use gameplay in a debate you need to make it available at the beginning of the debate, onyl then will mechanics like that work
B: he has no canon words so far on him being invuleralbe in canon to magic thus far shown. Either way, Kain is not lmited to using magic.
You did not enable gameplay mechanics, gameplay mechanics are not abiltiies, if you claim its an ability, then show me an out of gameplay moment where he is invulerable to magic please
I hate to tell you but if you read the KH2 guidebook it will say one of his skills is that no magic works on Sephiroth so save your magic. Every magic skill, including time manipulation doesn't work on Sephiroth in KH2.
That proves its a gameplay mechanic, because the guidebook is exactley what its for, guiding you through the game, a storyline mechanic is canon material that states that Sephiroth is immune through a means, for example if in a storyline game, BoB gains the special cloak of protection which makes him immune to magic, THAT is the means, wheras if a being in a game is simply immune and it is not stated in the storyline, its not canon, simply a way to make a boss harder while your playing.
So? has anyone even got any counters to the repel shield?
once Kain puts that up he is invincible, what about TK shackles and assuming Sephiroth CAN be officialy stated to be canonically immune to magic in KH then a good energy bolt or lightning would kill him.
Lightnign is not magical, its a force of nature, enregy bolt is simply that, energy, its enough to make most beings explode and if were talking gameplay, then it can one shot sephiroth.
Definaltey lightning, Lightning isnt magic is it, its natural even if Magic calls it down.
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