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data? like what? how is me telling you where to find information which is stupid becaus the info is simplyin the world around you, if youve not taken your time in trying to understand people or dont try to get to the depths of who a person is rather than who they are trying to create the image of who they are then you obviously need to try to do such things. you dont need a little table showing results of people.

And nobody is screaming....

Watching reality programs is a good way to see the reasons behind people do things since TV programs are usually targeted, especially those for younger generations or my age at the social aspects of their lives, which leads to the instinctual/social control ime talking about.


Like an experiment that can be summed up with empirical evidence, how is this hard for you to understand? If you make a claim, it's your responsibility to back it up.

Watching reality tv programmes is most definitely not a good way to try and explain any kind of social phenomenon. The type of people that apply to appear on such programmes are chosen for their "out there" personalities, most of which is false. Also, you're deciding to judge the whole world based on 10 or slightly more people in a house, with rules that are completely different to the outside world? Firstly, that group is far too small for it to be representative of the population. Secondly, you may as well judge everything in human behaviour off of Zimbardo's prison experiment.


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So your basically telling me is that I dont want to be taken seriously by you?


No, I'm saying you're a moron.


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...okay, let me get this straight.

BT is saying that since he can 'read' people (whatever the hell THAT means), qualifications and study are irrelevant when it comes to psychology, and using anecdotes and stuff he's seen on TV to come to a conclusion is the same as doing a controlled, scientific study?

I just...wow. I cannot fathom the ignorance that can lead to someone saying something like that.

Right, Burning thought, here we go. Psychology and sociology are not nearly so simple as you think they are. If they were, I wouldn't be planning on pursuing a doctorate degree after finishing my undergrad studies.


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Though, to be fair, lets also not pretend they are science.


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*holds forehead* reality tv....


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Though, to be fair, lets also not pretend they are science.


Depends which aspect, I'd say that neuropsychology is.


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Though, to be fair, lets also not pretend they are science.


They are science, though. Hence the need for careful study and measurement. Psych and Sociology have come a very long way since Freud and such. There's also biological and neurological psychology which are pretty much inarguablely science, behavioral studies are also very much scientific.


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I'm just being stereotypical guys.

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If I were more insane than I am (or less insane, depends on the day) I'd prolly be studying physics, actually.

And and and...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_psychology

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I quite regret not studying something more science based.


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What are you studying, chill?


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English Literature and Film Studies.


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Children are annoying.

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English Literature and Film Studies.


lol, thats awesome dude

science isn't the be all and end all. A lot of times I wish I had more experience with literature. ****, I haven't read non-fiction in years probably...

thats pretty terrible


































do comics count?


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lol, thats awesome dude

science isn't the be all and end all. A lot of times I wish I had more experience with literature. ****, I haven't read non-fiction in years probably...

thats pretty terrible


































do comics count?
Depends on the comic.


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lol, thats awesome dude

science isn't the be all and end all. A lot of times I wish I had more experience with literature. ****, I haven't read non-fiction in years probably...

thats pretty terrible


































do comics count?


Studying it at degree level can be very frustrating, but it's alright I suppose.

Haha, I'm sure you could find comics that would count.


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Children are annoying.

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do comics count?


Some comics are good for literary analysis. If one were so inclined there's enough information about things like COIE that you could probably put together a very substantial paper. Maus, Watchmen and Seven Soldiers would be the cliches, I'm sure, and they're probably worth looking at just to gauge the development of the genera (first graphic novel, first modern comicbook, most obviously post-modern comic). Personally the emergence presented by the development of comicbook "universes" seems like it would be fascinating since it pulls together so many different factors on so many different levels. I've also someone who was studying the history of popular culture, in the 30s and 40s comics are one of the biggest aspects worth looking at.


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