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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Some comics are good for literary analysis. If one were so inclined there's enough information about things like COIE that you could probably put together a very substantial paper. Maus, Watchmen and Seven Soldiers would be the cliches, I'm sure, and they're probably worth looking at just to gauge the development of the genera (first graphic novel, first modern comicbook, most obviously post-modern comic). Personally the emergence presented by the development of comicbook "universes" seems like it would be fascinating since it pulls together so many different factors on so many different levels. I've also someone who was studying the history of popular culture, in the 30s and 40s comics are one of the biggest aspects worth looking at.


I believe you can actually take a module in 'The Illustrated Novel' as part of my degree.


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Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Studies is just what ive done as can anyone else, the fact it has a seal of approval from a university is the only diffrence.


please give me an argument for why something that is not controlled, not double blinded, and not peer reviewed is as likely to be true as something that is blinded, controls for confounds, and is reviewed by experts in the field?

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2. I like how you say ive given NO definition then give a part of the definition.

Drones:

-follow their peer groups
-follow social ideas like law (i.e its wrong to be gay!)
-cannot give reasons or explanations for actions they call part of their own behavior which you touched on below.


you can't see for yourself why that isn't a valid and objective criteria?

like, "reasons"? Any action a person makes without a reason that satisfies YOU is "drone like"? thats waaaaay too subjective.

list of terms you need to define:
follow
social ideas
law
gay?
reasons
explanations
actions
their own
behaviour

this all assumes learning things like speech patterns, similar slang, similar mannerisms, similar beliefs etc from the peer group can be prevented and is somehow beneficial...

I guess you would probably have to show some significant difference between social learning and other forms of learning. And SOMEHOW show how someone can NOT be influenced by their social environment. (re: this is relevant to neuroplasticity [which is the term used to describe the way neurons and genes in the brain respond to incoming stimuli, thus making it impossible to separate social/genetic influences of ANY cognitive process, as they are the same thing at that level])

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3. You just basically proved my entire point, people present themselves as diffrent characters to fit in/follow the idea of soceity.


lol. thats really not your theory though, is it?

however, we have in fact been arguing the nature of human dualism, then the nature of scientific empiricism

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4. I dont understand what your asking me, please ask me it in a diffrent more obvious way.


again, more my point.

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You dont need as I said earlier however all these qualifcations and titles to tell you what people are.


no, you don't need them

however, to ignore real scientific data because you saw something on TV is the height of ignorance.

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Can you show me the folk psychology that is found worthless?


start on page 1 of this thread.

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Its easy looking from a social point of view, looking from a scientific point of view is difficult and in this instance irrelvent as well.


you aren't looking at things from a social point of view. You are looking from a point of view based on a pet theory that you just made up.


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Originally posted by Bardock42
MATHS RULES!!


lol, ass-hat

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Depends on the comic.


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Studying it at degree level can be very frustrating, but it's alright I suppose.

Haha, I'm sure you could find comics that would count.


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Some comics are good for literary analysis. If one were so inclined there's enough information about things like COIE that you could probably put together a very substantial paper. Maus, Watchmen and Seven Soldiers would be the cliches, I'm sure, and they're probably worth looking at just to gauge the development of the genera (first graphic novel, first modern comicbook, most obviously post-modern comic). Personally the emergence presented by the development of comicbook "universes" seems like it would be fascinating since it pulls together so many different factors on so many different levels. I've also someone who was studying the history of popular culture, in the 30s and 40s comics are one of the biggest aspects worth looking at.


lol, I was being a little facetious. I agree, there are lots of good comics out there that will probably stand the test of time. Me, I'm not so particular. I just read Arkham Asylum, and honestly, so good, so f'ing good.

low standards, what can I say wink

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I believe you can actually take a module in 'The Illustrated Novel' as part of my degree.


that would be an amazing elective


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Arkham Asylum is actually not that low a starting point.


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I know, I just know the nerd hierarchy, anything about superheroes is less cool.

There was a jpg to go with this I saw once....

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What's wrong with Heinlein mad


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not too much apparently

better than all those X-Men spinoffs I downlo... err buy...


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Haha, good stuff though.


On a different note, is your avatar, by chance, Man Thing. I am not quite certain. I always thought Swamp Thing but now I gave it a closer look that's nonsense.


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Haha, good stuff though.


On a different note, is your avatar, by chance, Man Thing. I am not quite certain. I always thought Swamp Thing but now I gave it a closer look that's nonsense.


Considering SwampThing doesn't have glowing red eyes or a weird nose/trunk thing . . . yeah I always figured it was SwampThing too.

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What's wrong with Heinlein mad


Or PiersAnthony, who else can get in lines about eight-year olds flashing their knickers without causing an uproar?


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Considering SwampThing doesn't have glowing red eyes or a weird nose/trunk thing . . . yeah I always figured it was SwampThing too.


Hey, I wasn't thinking. I looked, saw some monstery monster and figured "Hey, Swamp Thing's good enough".


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I think it's Man Thing, not swamp thing.


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Yes, guys, I said Swamp Thing was nonsense

Didn't I


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And then you said "Swamp Thing, good enough"...


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And then you said "Swamp Thing, good enough"...
No, I said that I used to say that, before I looked at it closely just now.


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No, I said that I used to say that, before I looked at it closely just now.


Well, it's not Swamp Thing.

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Well, it's not Swamp Thing.
I-i know.

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On a different note, is your avatar, by chance, Man Thing. I am not quite certain. I always thought Swamp Thing but now I gave it a closer look that's nonsense.



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lol, it is Man-Thing

the run Steve Gerber did on the character in the 70s is possibly my favorite series of comics


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I-i know.


But only one of us can be the Maverick here and you're not e ven an American.

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Its an example of what I am saying, fact does not really need proof, since proof can be found for this in most reality shows, comedies laughing at the way people are etc etc.
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Dude, whatever, just don't go off on me solely because you have no clue what's going on.


Oh, I figured that you would take the neutral perspective later on in the thread and decided to post about your post anyway solely for entertainment. I was more or less arguing with the implications in that one particular post because it's hard to "get you" NOT being neutral/objective.

Let me have my fun, damnit!

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Ignored


Both you and dadudemon have given anecdotal evidence. DDM at least admitted it.



And dadudemon can't be arsed to look that shit up or ask a psychology student/professor to find/cite evidence that shows that the vast majority of women still desire children in developed countries. If someone else is happy to look it up for me...they can. I think it's obvious.


And my other comment about a kick in the balls for not wanting kids was OBVIOUSLY over exaggerated hyperbole. (Redundant, I know...but redundant for a reason.) My wife got really pissed at me for saying that I didn't want any more kids for a while a few months after we were married. It actually pissed me off that something like that upset her. I was literally pissed that she was pissed about that. She didn't kick me in the nuts and leave me, though...but I'm sure that's happened to a dude before...there's plenty of bitches out there to go around.

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Another trait you sare with dadudemon.



Fail. I never said anecdotal evidence replaces empirical evidence. *Searches KMC* Since my memory is good enough that I didn't have to search for that to begin with, I just wasted my time. DAMNIT!

If that wasn't what your were getting at, **** you and your games. (For now...mwhahahahahahahaha!)


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