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The Batman vs Dracula

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I don't hear a lot of talk about this animated movie, but it truly is pretty good. It's a bit darker than the series, and I really liked that. The plot was pretty good, the fighting was awesome (as always), etc.

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Yeah, it's not bad...

Not my favorite, but not bad...


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Mask of the Phantasm should be everyone's favorite, lol...but this movie is my second favorite, no doubt. I'd love to have seen one involving Batman fighting the Wolf Man...imagine that!


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I've not seen it and, to be honest, I doubt I ever will. My dislike of The Batman probably wouldn't be affected by the inclusion of a supernatural bad guy. I prefer a more reality-based Batman...


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I like that it was more of a superhero show than detective show but to be honest, I think a lot of people dislike it because they were expecting them to follow exactly in the footsteps of TAS.


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Its not that

The Batman is just a crap series.


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Its not that

The Batman is just a crap series.


A Matter of Family

Riddler's Revenge

Those episodes would like to have a word with you... Sure, MOST of the episodes were pretty crap, but those 2 episodes were very well done...


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"The Batman" was damn good. I enjoyed it just as much as I enjoyed TAS.


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I don't hear a lot of talk about this animated movie, but it truly is pretty good. It's a bit darker than the series, and I really liked that. The plot was pretty good, the fighting was awesome (as always), etc.




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Do you think they should've done differently?


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Do you think they should've done differently?


I'll take this opportunity to highlight what I would have changed in "The Batman"... I think these changes would have made the show at least a little bit better...

1. The design for Joker should have looked like this:
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The first one is Joker during the episode "Bat in the Belfry" and the second is him throughout the rest of the series... Batman's design was spot on, though, so it is kept the same, as shown...

2. Remove Ethan Bennett, and make Ellen Yin work alone. Rewrite stories as necessary...

3. Replace Ethan Bennett with Harvey Dent, and instead of Clayface being born at the end of Season 1, Two-Face is born instead...

4. Introduce Jim Gordon early on, and have him become Commissioner at the beginning of Season 2...

5. Don't introduce Batgirl... She was the most annoying character on the show...

6. Keep Robin out until Season 4, like it was... Pretty much keep Season 4 the same, except take out "The Joining" and Batgirl...

7. Don't use Penguin so much! He got really annoying throughout the series...

That's all I can think up right now without getting too detailed... For that, I may rewrite the episodes (just quick summaries, though) like I did for the original franchise...


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I agree with some points like introducing Gordon early, and not having Batgirl, since she was an annoyance. The Joker's design was pretty cool for me, and I liked how they basically showed how he didn't care about the way he looked. But why does Bennett have to be the one that gets replaced? Blaaaaaaaaaack....


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I agree with some points like introducing Gordon early, and not having Batgirl, since she was an annoyance. The Joker's design was pretty cool for me, and I liked how they basically showed how he didn't care about the way he looked. But why does Bennett have to be the one that gets replaced? Blaaaaaaaaaack....


Bennett gets replaced because he was essentially a Harvey Dent type character that really didn't need to be there... Dent should have been in the show instead... Unless they changed his character, then he could stay...


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He was nothing like Harvey Dent. Harvey Dent was more of a serious character, Bennett was rarely serious. Plus, Bennett was meant to show how one bad day could ruin a man's life, and Joker wanted to show that he could break one of Gotham's finest. He truly was not a Harvey Dent clone, not in the slightest.


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He was nothing like Harvey Dent. Harvey Dent was more of a serious character, Bennett was rarely serious. Plus, Bennett was meant to show how one bad day could ruin a man's life, and Joker wanted to show that he could break one of Gotham's finest. He truly was not a Harvey Dent clone, not in the slightest.


I disagree completely...

You could have substituted Harvey Dent for Ethan Bennett and Two-Face for Clayface and the same message of "one bad day" would have resonated...


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Yes, I know, all three characters represent that, but Bennet and Dent, personality wise, are very different.


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Yes, I know, all three characters represent that, but Bennet and Dent, personality wise, are very different.


Does that change the fact that the characters served the same purpose?


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They didn't.


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They didn't.


Yeah they did:

1. Both were good friends of Bruce Wayne

2. Both had a job in law, whether it be enforcement of laws or prosecuting those who break them

3. Both were disfigured by a criminal

4. Both turned to a life of crime


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Can't that be said for a lot of villains? Does that mean Two-Face should've replaced them as well?


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