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I think that goku could physical crush a meteor with his immense strength but again we have two different point of views when it comes to gokus abilities.
When the hell did I mention Goku being able or not being able to crush a meteor?

I said GOUKI, as in Gouki from Streetfighter, not Goku from DBZ.

And no he couldn't smash a meteor the size of which I was talking about physically. Not by feats.


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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
That's just stupid.

If it was not too powerful, why not just do a blast that could stop it?



Because it was too big, they were able to deflect the small one easy.
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Right, because it was bigger, and was the same move as the one that was deflected I assume, it obviously contains more destructive power.


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if ti waz the same move then how duz it contain the same power????

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Right, because it was bigger, and was the same move as the one that was deflected I assume, it obviously contains more destructive power.



I don't disagree that it was stronger, but unlike the dub they only say it was too big to deflect thats all im saying.


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i agree also

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You also have to take in the fact that the dragonballs helped out to defeat Broli.

@Man of Violence - Broli wasn't killed by that punch. He was killed by being blasted into the sun. And Bio-Broli beat on Goten, 18, Trunk, and Krillen. They only won because of a plot device also. That Goten found out by watching Mr. Satan.


exactly they helped goku come for that one attack and as i said buu can create attacks of that calibur maybe even stronger


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gohan absorbed buu is the strongest form so if kidd buu was able to throw the earth spirit bomb with all of the amped z fighters power in it also . gohan buu would throw it back much easier


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If Legendary super saiyan is more powerful than SSJ3, then how did plain Goku kill him? Also trying to figure out how Trunks, Goten and Gohan did it.


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If Legendary super saiyan is more powerful than SSJ3, then how did plain Goku kill him? Also trying to figure out how Trunks, Goten and Gohan did it.
Plain Goku never killed him, I would reccomend you get your facts straight.

And being noncanon, the character's powers were amped for the sake of the plot. Cause in canon no one in DBZ can even half rival Broly.


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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Plain Goku never killed him, I would reccomend you get your facts straight.

And being noncanon, the character's powers were amped for the sake of the plot. Cause in canon no one in DBZ can even half rival Broly.


do u realize what you are saying makes no sense. Bascally what your trying to say is that in a movie ssj is stronger than an ssj3 in canon
that makes no sense.

put it this way if brolly was such a badass why wasnt he in any of the later movies so ssj3 or a fusion could kill him.

your just a brolly fanboy


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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Plain Goku never killed him, I would reccomend you get your facts straight.

And being noncanon, the character's powers were amped for the sake of the plot. Cause in canon no one in DBZ can even half rival Broly.


Oh yeah, my facts.

Let's see.

Exhausted Goku gets a bit of power from his friends and kill off Broly. Is that supposed to put him above his usual power level? Because in case YOUR facts aren't straight, you lose power as you tire. Goku commented on how Gohan's power level was almost down to 1 after he fought Recoome. So yeah, I'm wondering how you reckon that Goku was so incredibly strong.


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Originally posted by yungz22
do u realize what you are saying makes no sense. Bascally what your trying to say is that in a movie ssj is stronger than an ssj3 in canon
that makes no sense.

put it this way if brolly was such a badass why wasnt he in any of the later movies so ssj3 or a fusion could kill him.

your just a brolly fanboy
That's exactly what I am saying.

Because he was dead. no expression

Means alot coming from someone with your spelling and grammatical skills. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Oh yeah, my facts.

Let's see.

Exhausted Goku gets a bit of power from his friends and kill off Broly. Is that supposed to put him above his usual power level? Because in case YOUR facts aren't straight, you lose power as you tire. Goku commented on how Gohan's power level was almost down to 1 after he fought Recoome. So yeah, I'm wondering how you reckon that Goku was so incredibly strong.
I never even factored that event into my debate.

Why?

It was a blatant plot-device.

Broly was taking all of them on his own without so much as having to struggle, and had nearly killed all of them, with Goku being beaten to a pulp.

But somehow it is logical for all those near dead people, putting what is left of their energy into one near dead person, and suddenly being able to fight back the guy who was beating all of them without effort?

PIS. It exists.


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Originally posted by yungz22
do u realize what you are saying makes no sense. Bascally what your trying to say is that in a movie ssj is stronger than an ssj3 in canon
that makes no sense.

put it this way if brolly was such a badass why wasnt he in any of the later movies so ssj3 or a fusion could kill him.

your just a brolly fanboy


In Jaxx' mind, the Broly movie is completely separate from all the other movies and actions of DBZ. He's trying to base his logic off that simply because it's the only way that Broly could win a fight against anyone who's not stronger than SSJ1.

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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I never even factored that event into my debate.

Why?

It was a blatant plot-device.

Broly was taking all of them on his own without so much as having to struggle, and had nearly killed all of them, with Goku being beaten to a pulp.

But somehow it is logical for all those near dead people, putting what is left of their energy into one near dead person, and suddenly being able to fight back the guy who was beating all of them without effort?

PIS. It exists.


Hey, if Broly had any actual victories you might play it off as PIS. Unfortunately he's gotten his ass raped in every encounter with the Saiyans and every single time it's been a Kamehameha.


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Originally posted by Bada's Palin
In Jaxx' mind, the Broly movie is completely separate from all the other movies and actions of DBZ. He's trying to base his logic off that simply because it's the only way that Broly could win a fight against anyone who's not stronger than SSJ1.



Hey, if Broly had any actual victories you might play it off as PIS. Unfortunately he's gotten his ass raped in every encounter with the Saiyans and every single time it's been a Kamehameha.
1. That's because it is. The Broly movies are not connected to a SINGLE piece of canon but their own, and trying to deny that only makes you yourself seem like an ignorant jackass.

2. Well let use see. Broly in the first movie, beat Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku for a bit. In fact, the entire movie was him beating on them without effort. Second movie he beat Videl, Trunks and Goten, was beating Gohan and actually did KO him. Raped each time with a Kamehameha? Dude, are you retarded? Have you even seen the movies? Only ONCE has a Kamehameha even done shit to Broly, and it was 3 Super Kamehamehas along with his own blast, pushing him into the sun, and the resulting pressure of both forces colliding on him exploded his heart. You clearly have not even seen the movies.


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I was just waiting for this. The little child's descent into assumptions!

Ageget, experienceget and factsget.

1. You're purposely refusing to compare Broly to any other characters than Super Saiyan 1s. You're not capable of understanding that if these characters had fought Cell, which they did, they wouldn't be able to do any damage at all, AND THEY WEREN'T!

Do you actually think that Kamehamha from 3 super sairan's is stronger than 1 Kamehameha from a Super Saiyan 3?


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Originally posted by Bada's Palin
I was just waiting for this. The little child's descent into assumptions!

Ageget, experienceget and factsget.

1. You're purposely refusing to compare Broly to any other characters than Super Saiyan 1s. You're not capable of understanding that if these characters had fought Cell, which they did, they wouldn't be able to do any damage at all, AND THEY WEREN'T!

Do you actually think that Kamehamha from 3 super sairan's is stronger than 1 Kamehameha from a Super Saiyan 3?
No, it is you who does not get it.

And funny, going by your posts, I would assume you are probably about 13 if that. You sure you are old enough for this site young man?

Am I now? Well let's see. Let's do some comparing then.

Broly destroyed a galaxy. Buu's best blast could destroy Earth ten times over. Which Goku and Vegeta could not stop.

It took 3 Kamehamehas and Broly's own blast propelling him at FTL speeds through the entirety of the sun, until his heart exploded to kill Broly. Buu was killed by a Spirit Bomb that consisted of all the power of weaklings on Earth and like 4 strong people, backed up by a SSJ Goku's blast.

Yeah, Broly is more impressive.

You still have yet to grasp the difference between "canon" and "noncanon."


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Because Broly isn't blind and can initiate it instantly. no expression

Broly will incinerate him. Not blast him to pieces. Buu can't even talk, how is he smarter than Broly? Kid Buu's only real slight hint of intelligence was when he made his arm absorb the South Kaioshin. Broly's shield is instant, and Broly has used it many times before.

...When it is the exact same type of blast that he used before, yeah it does. And Broly busted a galaxy. Broly's blast being FTL means it will hit with much more impact.
He's not blind but he isn't smart either. Vegetto did it because he was planning on it happening. Broli isn't going to know what's happening. I'd wager he'd be covered before he put his shield up.

Depends on the version of Buu. Most are smarter than him, and most are stronger than Kid Buu also. And most still try to absorb beings stronger than them. And it took something that destroys evil to take out Kid Buu even though he was incinerated plenty of times. He was incinerated by Vegeta and he still was able to reform. He was incinerated when he destroyed the planet and he still came back.

Hitting with more impact against a pink blob that reforms from every attack really proves what? Broli has no real way to kill Buu at all. The only way the battle will end is if Buu absorbs him. Buu won't really hurt Broli and Broli isn't killing Buu. Broli also never busted a galaxy. If he had then Gokou wouldn't have stood on a planet in the galaxy.

And his own blast in movie 10 was broken through it didn't hit him.


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That's exactly what I am saying.

Because he was dead. no expression

Means alot coming from someone with your spelling and grammatical skills. roll eyes (sarcastic)



Im saying they would not have made the brolly movie so early they would have waited till later in the series since they knew their would be stronger versions of ssj. Mainly because they believe ssj was strong enough to handle him.


How i write and type are totally different i don't really care how i type on the computer and what does this have to do with you being a fan boy


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