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Didnt Sailor Moon destroy planet Nemesis?


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Someone needs to tell me what they can do properly and fully explained because just destroying a planet does not prove they are stronger than team yusuke. Once again in the manga it is stated the guy Yusuke fought said that just by charging up if they were on earth the energy released would be enough to destroy it. Also in the anime when they are introducing demon rankings koenma reinforces this by saying that if even 1 S-class demon were to come through the path into Earth, the planet is ****ed. Yusuke is a direct blood relative to one of the 3 demon kings, those are 3 of the most powerful S-class demons.

I need to hear more of the senshi's so called great feats here.

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Eternal Sailor Moon's attacks was never shown to blow anything except chaos and IIRC her moon eternal therapy kiss purified a phage created by black star seeds and turn them into normal human again. the effect after the attack is... nothing damaged. even 4 inner senshi except moon got their stomach pierced through by galaxia's little energy ball. if such a little attack could damage them like that, I wonder what will Yusuke, Kurama or hiei did to them?


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Eternal Sailor Moon's attacks was never shown to blow anything except chaos and IIRC her moon eternal therapy kiss purified a phage created by black star seeds and turn them into normal human again. the effect after the attack is... nothing damaged. even 4 inner senshi except moon got their stomach pierced through by galaxia's little energy ball. if such a little attack could damage them like that, I wonder what will Yusuke, Kurama or hiei did to them?


Little attack? Galaxia was a universal threat. no expression


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Little attack? Galaxia was a universal threat. no expression


universal threat? you mean when she takes all the star seeds?


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universal threat? you mean when she takes all the star seeds?


No she is a bit different from her manga version but she was like the Broly of Sailor Moon. She was the legendary Senshi, strongest in the entire universe and ended a war by sealing off all evil and envoking Chaos into her body in order to save the cosmos. Her power was a threat to the univers and she slowly changed into the evil version that she is now so she got rid of her own seed to keep it away from her/Chaos. She then went on as leader of the Shadow Galactica and started wrecking planets and taking their seed.

Like I said, getting hurt by Galaxia isn't a bad feat. She could probably solo this team.


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Can't Ami create a mist to blind everybody but herself then tell the other scouts to attack because of her little visor that appears? And Rei having her priestess abilities wouldn't that make her have a huge advantage against Kurama, and Hiei since she always has those spell tags?
Doesn't Venus Love Me Chain also constrict a person? I don't actually remember what that attack does at all....


Kurama is also able to produce a mist to blind enemies as well. He could perform the same maneuvers. Not to mention, Kurama has an advanced sense of smell, fighting the scouts throughout the sailor's mist wouldn't be a huge problem for him.

What do those spell tags thing do exactly?

The Love me Chain would be alright I guess, although the Rose Whip is capable of the same feat, but I'm sure their spirit powers would be able to break the chain if they were to flare up.


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I still see nothing to prove that the senshi are so called "galaxy busters". Anything they could do Team Yusuke could probably do just as good perhaps even better.

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Kurama is also able to produce a mist to blind enemies as well. He could perform the same maneuvers. Not to mention, Kurama has an advanced sense of smell, fighting the scouts throughout the sailor's mist wouldn't be a huge problem for him.

What do those spell tags thing do exactly?

The Love me Chain would be alright I guess, although the Rose Whip is capable of the same feat, but I'm sure their spirit powers would be able to break the chain if they were to flare up.
Kurama does have a lot of binding attacks also. Hmm maybe mist would be very bad if Kurama's able to see through the mist along with all his plants to set as traps.

Rei's a psychic, and a priestess who can dispel evil spirits and demons. That's what those things do. So I'm just wondering how well they'd work against Hiei and Kurama.


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Kurama does have a lot of binding attacks also. Hmm maybe mist would be very bad if Kurama's able to see through the mist along with all his plants to set as traps.

Rei's a psychic, and a priestess who can dispel evil spirits and demons. That's what those things do. So I'm just wondering how well they'd work against Hiei and Kurama.


Kuwabara's spirit sword would for sure cut through the chain.

Yusuke has fought in the pitch dark before and won I don't think its a problem.

Rei's spells probably only work well on lesser demons.

Hiei summons fire from demon realm I don't Rei's going to be able to dispell that.

Even without yoko Kurama would be able to take on atleast 1 senshi.

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Rei's spells worked on all demons she used it on. She could paralyze Hiei and Kurama. What facts do you have that says Kuwabara can cut through the chain?

All I've seen from you since you came here were claims unbacked by actual feats or facts. Needless bashing of me, Jaxx and others, hatred towards gays, and ignorant claims.

You do know that you are only debating against season 1 attacks at the moment? They got way stronger as time progressed. Mercury even learned how to freeze.


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Rei's spells worked on all demons she used it on. She could paralyze Hiei and Kurama. What facts do you have that says Kuwabara can cut through the chain?

All I've seen from you since you came here were claims unbacked by actual feats or facts. Needless bashing of me, Jaxx and others, hatred towards gays, and ignorant claims.

You do know that you are only debating against season 1 attacks at the moment? They got way stronger as time progressed. Mercury even learned how to freeze.


Kuwabara's sword at full power is a dimensional blade that can cut through the portal to the demon world, I don't think this love chain is strong enough to withstand that.

What feats have you shown me? That video doesn't show a fight it just shows Usagi extending a hand out to galaxia that isn't a feat.

I have no reason to believe she could paralyze Hiei or Kurama, if her feats are so great then she could've used it on every villain in the show and won.

So far you haven't given me anything instead of holding stupid grudges from previous threads, read my actual posts I've presented feats and abilities in yu yu hakusho. So far I don't see any accomplishments that qualify the senshi as galaxy busters.

Yusuke with demon blood powers unleashed can easily destroy a planet. As far as I know none of you have said that the Senshi themselves (the ones invovled in this fight) have been able to unleash such power.

I haven't wrongfully bashed anyone in this thread yet, unless they held something against me from a previous thread. So man it up and suck it up this is the internet holding a personal vendetta against me and what I've done in another thread doesn't amount to jackshit.

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Kuwabara's spirit sword would for sure cut through the chain.

Yusuke has fought in the pitch dark before and won I don't think its a problem.

Rei's spells probably only work well on lesser demons.

Hiei summons fire from demon realm I don't Rei's going to be able to dispell that.

Even without yoko Kurama would be able to take on atleast 1 senshi.
Cut through a chain that has him bound...I'd like to see that.

And you have no proof that they only work on lesser demons. Rei's been doing stuff like that since before she ever became a scout and transforming amplifies her natural abilities. There's nothing to suggest that it won't stop them cause I don't remember Hiei or Kurama encountering anything like that.

..Fire isn't a demon.

Kurama without Youko is the deadliest one of the team and if it were one on one fights he'd no doubt be able to win easily. He's smarter, more cunning, and all that. But that won't help if Rei can paralyze him and Hiei. Then it's Urameshi and Kuwabara against the Scouts, and they aren't going to deal well with being frozen, burned, hit with lightning, and all while chained up.

@Wei - Since you know a bit more it seems can Rei manipulate other fire? Cause if she can Hiei will probably have even more trouble unless he calls out Dragon of the Darkness Flames. His normal fire won't work.


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Cut through a chain that has him bound...I'd like to see that.

And you have no proof that they only work on lesser demons. Rei's been doing stuff like that since before she ever became a scout and transforming amplifies her natural abilities. There's nothing to suggest that it won't stop them cause I don't remember Hiei or Kurama encountering anything like that.

..Fire isn't a demon.

Kurama without Youko is the deadliest one of the team and if it were one on one fights he'd no doubt be able to win easily. He's smarter, more cunning, and all that. But that won't help if Rei can paralyze him and Hiei. Then it's Urameshi and Kuwabara against the Scouts, and they aren't going to deal well with being frozen, burned, hit with lightning, and all while chained up.

@Wei - Since you know a bit more it seems can Rei manipulate other fire? Cause if she can Hiei will probably have even more trouble unless he calls out Dragon of the Darkness Flames. His normal fire won't work.


Saying that kurama is the deadliest in the group without yoko is not realistic. If that's the case Kurama would've defeated Sensui himself.

Yusuke has escaped being binded before...

Kuwabara is arguably the weakest in the group yet regardless the amount of damage he takes in every fight, he still manages to win.
Freezing, burning him just wouldn't be enough for the senshi to claim a quick victory off of him.


That demon fire move can only be controlled by someone who has the jagan.

QQ Let's talk about what the senshi can do.

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Rei's spells worked on all demons she used it on. She could paralyze Hiei and Kurama. What facts do you have that says Kuwabara can cut through the chain?

You do know that you are only debating against season 1 attacks at the moment? They got way stronger as time progressed. Mercury even learned how to freeze.


Rei's spells would rid the demons of evil influence. Hiei and Kurama are no longer evil demons after their first appearances against Yusuke. If she was planning on paralyzes them with her aura, it wouldn't last for very long. In the Dark Tournament, Hiei is bound behind an entire wall of power, but simply raising his energy soon allowed him to break his way through with force.

Not to mention, if Kuwabara wished to free Hiei and Kurama from their imprisonment, he could use his Jigen-to dimensional sword to cut through their bounds.

Not to mention Hiei's amazing speed.

big deal on what's her name being able to freeze. Here's a fight with Hiei during the first season of Yu Yu Hakusho against Seiryu - a warrior using Ice for elemental attacks.

here's Seiryu freezing an entire body with a single punch.

http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/08/

And the fight against Hiei begins:
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/14-15/

and ends:
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/16/

In one charge Hiei cut Seiryu 16 times.
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/18/

As for the freezing attack, I doubt it'll work against Hiei - a pyrokinetic/cryokinetic apparition.

Pay specific attention to Hiei's frozen limbs.



With sheer power he breaks through the ice. Season ONE hiei.

(sorry for the shit quality video.)

edit: alright it won't embed very well. heres the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-8YEI4msOs


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Kuwabara's sword at full power is a dimensional blade that can cut through the portal to the demon world, I don't think this love chain is strong enough to withstand that.

What feats have you shown me? That video doesn't show a fight it just shows Usagi extending a hand out to galaxia that isn't a feat.

I have no reason to believe she could paralyze Hiei or Kurama, if her feats are so great then she could've used it on every villain in the show and won.

So far you haven't given me anything instead of holding stupid grudges from previous threads, read my actual posts I've presented feats and abilities in yu yu hakusho. So far I don't see any accomplishments that qualify the senshi as galaxy busters.

Yusuke with demon blood powers unleashed can easily destroy a planet. As far as I know none of you have said that the Senshi themselves (the ones invovled in this fight) have been able to unleash such power.

I haven't wrongfully bashed anyone in this thread yet, unless they held something against me from a previous thread. So man it up and suck it up this is the internet holding a personal vendetta against me and what I've done in another thread doesn't amount to jackshit.


1. That video showed you as long as a flicker of good is within your heart she can purify you and show light, hope and beauty.

2. Kuwabara can't cut anything if he is bounded.

3. Every time she used said charms, they worked. She didn't do it to every demon because then the story would get boring. Just like how Superman could really end every villain the JLA fights pretty easily but then the comic would be boring.

4. I hold no grudge and I never said the scouts could bust a galaxy.

5. When has he Yusuke ever destroyed a planet?

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I haven't wrongfully bashed anyone in this thread yet, unless they held something against me from a previous thread. So man it up and suck it up this is the internet holding a personal vendetta against me and what I've done in another thread doesn't amount to jackshit.


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Doesn't surprise me, people like him on the net are like fish. He probably wanted me to be gay so he could toss my salad and eat my out for diner.

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I need to see more feats than that. Yusuke could just nuke the field, and then there's kuwabara sword that is a dimensional blade, Hiei's demon fire combined with Kurama's yoko mode + whip I see this battle as orgy against the Senshi lead by team Yusuke.
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Discarding Thunder I thought the rest of us were perfectly straight reproducing males. So I didn't think my sentence was so non-sequitur.

Um ye I doubt I'm ever going to watch more sailor moon. Pretty much this whole debate is the people who have watched sailor moons word against everyone else. Its kind of an obscure debate since most of us haven't watched (or enough) sailor moon.

Anyway afk watching an anime...


Looks like bashing there. I'm surprised he didn't respond.

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@Wei - Since you know a bit more it seems can Rei manipulate other fire? Cause if she can Hiei will probably have even more trouble unless he calls out Dragon of the Darkness Flames. His normal fire won't work.


Yeah to my knowledge they can all control the elements of their planet but the DOTDF is on a different level.

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Rei's spells would rid the demons of evil influence. Hiei and Kurama are no longer evil demons after their first appearances against Yusuke. If she was planning on paralyzes them with her aura, it wouldn't last for very long. In the Dark Tournament, Hiei is bound behind an entire wall of power, but simply raising his energy soon allowed him to break his way through with force.

Not to mention, if Kuwabara wished to free Hiei and Kurama from their imprisonment, he could use his Jigen-to dimensional sword to cut through their bounds.

Not to mention Hiei's amazing speed.

big deal on what's her name being able to freeze. Here's a fight with Hiei during the first season of Yu Yu Hakusho against Seiryu - a warrior using Ice for elemental attacks.

here's Seiryu freezing an entire body with a single punch.

http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/08/

And the fight against Hiei begins:
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/14-15/

and ends:
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/16/

In one charge Hiei cut Seiryu 16 times.
http://www.onemanga.com/Yu_Yu_Hakusho/39/18/

As for the freezing attack, I doubt it'll work against Hiei - a pyrokinetic/cryokinetic apparition.

Pay specific attention to Hiei's frozen limbs.



With sheer power he breaks through the ice. Season ONE hiei.

(sorry for the shit quality video.)

edit: alright it won't embed very well. heres the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-8YEI4msOs


I don't know about the charm not working since she has only done it to evil demons seeing as there are no good demons on that show.

I also agree that Mercury's freeze attacks wouldn't gain the advantage in that fight. Those two would be a bad match up and yes Kuwabara could take the charm off seeing as he has no demon in him. Speed is a hard thing for me to interpret in Sailor Moon so I can't say if she would keep up or not but I want to believe they could.

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1. That video showed you as long as a flicker of good is within your heart she can purify you and show light, hope and beauty.

2. Kuwabara can't cut anything if he is bounded.

3. Every time she used said charms, they worked. She didn't do it to every demon because then the story would get boring. Just like how Superman could really end every villain the JLA fights pretty easily but then the comic would be boring.

4. I hold no grudge and I never said the scouts could bust a galaxy.

5. When has he Yusuke ever destroyed a planet?





Looks like bashing there.


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Are you ****ing dyslexic or are you being a retard on purpose.

Like I said I only bashed people who held grudges against me in previous threads. TheThudnerGod basically called me a closed closet homosexual when he's a ****ing bisexual.

You do hold a grudge against me, I can fully see it.

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When you say every time I find that hard to believe. Your argument about it being boring to use every single time does not make sense. If her chain was omnipotent as you make it sound she would use it against galaxia. It would make sense that because she knows the limit of her chain she doesn't use it when she knows it will be pointless. After reading your previous post that chain argument is pretty much usless because they can't use it.

That argument about superman beating everyone, if there was someone in the JLA who could kick everyones ass if he wanted it would be the flash (fanboy moment). Serious talk here superman's moral codes prevent him from going full power on every opponent due to the fear he might kill them. I see no moral code preventing the senshi from killing off their opponents.

This is a team battle, even if kuwabara is binded from the spot he would probably be freed later on.

I honestly see no argument on your side. What I'm sure everyone wants to know including myself, is how the Senshi could proceed to beating all of team Yusuke? What tactics what moves they could use that is not pis?

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Saying that kurama is the deadliest in the group without yoko is not realistic. If that's the case Kurama would've defeated Sensui himself.

Yusuke has escaped being binded before...

Kuwabara is arguably the weakest in the group yet regardless the amount of damage he takes in every fight, he still manages to win.
Freezing, burning him just wouldn't be enough for the senshi to claim a quick victory off of him.


That demon fire move can only be controlled by someone who has the jagan.

QQ Let's talk about what the senshi can do.
Kurama IS the deadliest. Deadly doesn't equal power. He's more ruthless, and cunning than any of the others.

Kuwabara won't be getting himself out of being frozen..And last time I checked he doesn't have a immunity to being burned.

@ Quincy - I wasn't talking about Hiei getting frozen. I was talking about Kuwabara and Urameshi.

They are still demons. Evil or not they should still be paralyzed. They aren't possessing a host so they won't purifiy anything.

I don't know what the Scouts speed are to Hiei.

@Wei - I know she can't control Dragon of the Darkness flames or the fires of hell. I was just talking about his normal fire.


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