Um, yeah strength does matter, with that strength they can physically overpower them which will leave them hard pressed to use their powers, and would be even more dominated considering much greater speed.
Oh and Jeice was a mix of Burter and Recoome, he was not as fast as Burter but stronger and weaker than Recoome but faster.
But what would physical strength really bring. If Team Urameshi is faster then they kill them with their abilities. If they aren't faster then being physically stronger won't really matter because they wouldn't lay a finger on them to use that superior strength. Durability would be a factor for both sides but I don't see physical strength coming into play when most of them use their abilities more than physical might.
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...Everyone on team YYH are primarily close combat fighters, with Kuwabara's only method of combat being close-combat related, so strength will be a factor.
Kurama uses plants, and his rose whip isn't exactly close combat. Hiei and Kuwabara both use swords..Not really strength coming into play there nor does Hiei's fire power which would be long range. Yusuke is the only real fighter that uses his pure strength because he goes and punches but even then he has Shotgun, and Spirit Gun that he'd most likely go with first unless Spirit Gun failed.
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Swordplay does involve alot of strength, it takes alot of strength to be able to clash blades, and also takes strength to cut something completely, although I will admit in this case Kuwabara and Hiei have alot more strength than would really be needed.
When does Yusuke ever use the Spirit Gun first? He usually tries to start with a strong left hook(as noted by Sensui in their first fight) and uses Spirit Gun later.
As far as I know the Scouts don't use swords..so they'd just need to be able to hit them. Which would fall into speed more than strength. Which Hiei has loads of but does Kuwabara have any speed feats?
Eh I'm just thinking about how the Scouts probably wouldn't get into a close, physical fight since nobody but Jupiter even have any fighting skills or actual strength.
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Because you claimed that an energy ball she shot was weak because it had no feats backing it even though I believe she used the same attack to kill one of her animamates or whatever they were called.
Rei can fight as well, hell she was taking on demons and paralyzing them untransformed. Moon has used a sword before and she has dogded swords in the past. However I don't remember them being of Hiei's speed.
She was a threat to the entire universe and only got stronger. She envoked the most power from Chaos. She wasn't killed nor defeated but purified which was the only way to truly beat her. She destroyed the Light of Hope with one blow. She could destroy a universe.
The funny thing is that I've been debating way better than you and everyone in this entire thread has been laughing at you.
SSJ4 Goku could destroy a universe. He also fused with the dragon balls so in all honesty think its safe to assume he has the same reality warping abilities the dragon balls have. (Yes I know most people don't consider GT canon but still the facts are there).
Offtopic: I was just being an ass if people laugh or get pissed off that's my job as an ******* but seriously your points on sailor moon are weak.
1. SSJ4 isn't canon and he has no feats that puts him at a universe buster.
2. Just because you assume something, that doesn't make it a fact so its not safe to assume that he could warp reality with no feats or evidence.
3. You are right GT in not canon and it has nothing to do with a DBZ debate or points being made. SSJ4 Goku and GT are equivalent to the Sailor Moon fanfic I made where she absorbs all of the power in the universe and becomes omnipotent. That or the live action show where she actually did destroy the planet.
Offtopic: I don't think anyone here likes you or find your lame jokes about someone being bisexual or liking Sailor Moon or Naruto funny. What was funny how you admitted how sad your life was when you used to only watch Sailor Moon so you could pretend to be making out with them and getting some vagina for the first time in your life.
I dont get the feat here. Okay sweet Galaxia or whatever can destroy universes. And Sailor Moon beat her?
But it doesn't matter if Sailor Moon beat her, she didn't beat her with her own power did she? They didn't fight to the death right? She just purified her.
Purified, not beat. I stress that everytime someone brings that up. Galaxia actually didn't use any of her galaxy busting powers for some reason. At first she was just toying with her trying to stab her with her sword when she transformed. The entire time she was trying to get Moon to fight her first but Moon just dodged and refused even after the Light of Hope begged her to fight back.
This time it was with her own power, but it wasn't to the death. Galaxia wanted to kill her, but Moon refused to try to kill her even though she accidentally stabbed her. Galaxia charged into the sword while trying to kill her.
Offtopic: Dude I was like 8 or 10 at the time... lol I see can you're like mad pissed. You take shit so seriously this is the internet man... pmsing just shows you as a little *****.
Most dbz characters don't even need to fully transform inorder to destroy a planet. SS
1.Hell freiza had a powerlevel of about 1 million or so and he could blow up planets. Even vegeta early in the saiyan sage (yes I know this episode was a filler) blew up a planet. SSJ4 goku's powerlevel is above and beyond their powers.
2. It's a damn good assumption, for intensive purposes Goku at the end of GT is practically immortal.
3. Aw dude no, saying a fanfic of sailor moon is as canonical GT, is silly. Toriyama actually worked partially during the initial episodes of GT. Anybody can write a fanfic, but inorder to do a sequel of dbz you need the permission of Toriyama and whoever else owns dbz. At any rate if the manga universe is the pure canology, then the anime, the GT/movies is a third.
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