And lol at whoever said that goku turning into a tornadoe wasnt a desent speed feat when I have only seen people like flash and superman doing that and this was goku as a teen.
Apparently, you don't. Either that or you're bias for Goku. With you saying Goku can punch harder and can fight faster than Superman, I can understand why someone would be laughing when you say you're a "Superman fanatic".
As for the "tornado" feat, until Goku actually creates a tornado like that, it's not all that impressive. It's a good one but I've seen better even before that.
Last edited by Bro SMASH on Mar 12th, 2009 at 04:15 PM
Not being biased at all. The combat speed feats that superman has, goku did it as a child. The thing you need to think about is this, superman failed to catch bullets. In the amazo comic it stated that it would take superman minutes to fly 22000 miles. Lets not bring up superman getting pound by konvikt, despero, etc.. and all of them are bricks in which goku would run circles around, even as a child.
Dont come at me with superman combat speed>when goku fight speedsters on a daily basis and has speedsters that he can run circles around.
Back on topic, any of the androids 10/10 without even using ki blasts.
Didn't blame you. Just asked why he was even brought up. It's Ken vs the Androids. Ken who is at best Saiyan Saga speed, who is at best with 20xKaioken is like possibly Final Form Freeza's at half power.
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How about this, show me him fighting at super speed against speedsters and when you post this make sure its on the level of dbz or even regular dragonball.
I know goku doesnt fight as frequent as superman does but EVERY time hes fought, he blitzed the ENTIRE time and proved that he cant get touched by a brick.
I already told you some examples. Shin was stabbing right at him in the manga and he suddenly disappeared and appeared behind him. Shin's shoulder plate then exploded and Batt who was watching was like "Uh? When did he do that?"
You could also cite Kasumi Kenshiro's speed technique he used to dodge a swarm of bullets that were inches from his face. He obviously exceeded the speed of sound there and when he used the same technique against Tai Yan, Tai Yan couldn't see his movement. Kasumi Kenshiro is the namesake of Kenshiro and a previous would be successor of Hokuto. 199X Ken knows the same technique.
Now, if anime is allowed, there's a scene where Mamiya throws an apple in front of Ken and cuts through it with her bladed yoyo. Ken dodges it with invisible speed before reappearing, and when Mamiya and the kids grab each half of the apple it splits again because Ken cut it in mid-air.
He also does the exact same thing against Joker, a minion of Shin's, whose entire gimmick is moving so fast he looks like he's teleporting ala Dragonball. There's even a video of this in this thread.
Kenshiro is on the invisible moving speed level, so he's probably at least equal to Kid Goku in his second tournament speed wise.
I don't think Ken has the speed to compete in Dragonball Z terms, but you're underrating Ken a bit. He can go invisible through speed.
Last edited by Broken Warrior on Mar 12th, 2009 at 08:49 PM
They didnt do anything to him, he quoted, "bullets goes 774, its said that I'm faster but sometimes being faster isnt good enough".
You know what level that is if you have seen dragonball and that fight with mongul aint it. Supermans only impressive fight was with doomsday but it was against a weaker doomsday that was loser power and its still pales to dbz. Just look at frieza's combat speed feat and then talk to me.
I dont think you can tell if a dbz character win or lose if you think that ken is even a match for even nappa who has the ability to blow up cities and is MUCH faster than ken.
Show me something that goku couldnt do during his fight with junior because that goku alone could throw ken out of orbit or across another city.
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Mar 12th, 2009 03:45 PM
I didn't say that!
