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Sadako of Girth
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Ah.

Well he was bulked out in the third one. His design was changed.
Especially with trailer and its armaments bolted on.

But even so: Still looks puny compared to Kong, who looks like he could snap and break Prime in two and then juggle his head and arms after defecating in his eyes and using his legs to batter a T Rex with.


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Ah.

Well he was bulked out in the third one. His design was changed.
Especially with trailer and its armaments bolted on.

But even so: Still looks puny compared to Kong, who looks like he could snap and break Prime in two and then juggle his head and arms after defecating in his eyes and using his legs to batter a T Rex with.


I'm a lot more massive than a steel pipe, doesn't mean I can bend or snap it.

Kong was unable to snap a T-rex in two, he won't be able to do it with Prime. Granted he was able to rip the T-rex's jaw, but that took some time. And the T-rex is seriously under-armed compared to either Kong or Prime.


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Well you aren't a Kong. smile

Also Prime is not as thick as a steel pipe proportionately.
And certainly not compared to Kong.
He has thin sheeting like armour over that skellington.
Gets mashed up all the time and his joints are prone to damage too. The wookie losing at holochess scenario utterly springs to mind... I suggest a new strategy Frothbyte.. Let the Giant Sliverback win. Bay Prime gets bludgeoned to death, against Jackson Kong, but gets flayed limb from limb and picked apart like a cruel kid dismantling a cranefly against 70s Kong who killed not just ONE T-Rex attacking him...


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Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm a lot more massive than a steel pipe, doesn't mean I can bend or snap it.


do you have anything to add to the discussion besides naked fallacies?


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Bay Prime gets bludgeoned to death, against Jackson Kong who killed not just ONE T-Rex attacking him... but gets flayed limb from limb and picked apart like a cruel kid dismantling a cranefly against 70s Kong


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well you aren't a Kong. smile

Also Prime is not as thick as a steel pipe proportionately.
And certainly not compared to Kong.
He has thin sheeting like armour over that skellington.
Gets mashed up all the time and his joints are prone to damage too. The wookie losing at holochess scenario utterly springs to mind... I suggest a new strategy Frothbyte.. Let the Giant Sliverback win. Bay Prime gets bludgeoned to death, against Jackson Kong, but gets flayed limb from limb and picked apart like a cruel kid dismantling a cranefly against 70s Kong who killed not just ONE T-Rex attacking him...


I'm not Kong, and Prime is not a steel pipe. Prime is a lot thicker than a steel pipe in proportion to Kong. That "thin sheeting" over his skeleton survived multiple incendiary and explosive rounds blasted in to him. Blasts that would have torn apart Kong. The only things capable of injuring Prime are other transformers of similar size or their weapons. In the end, Kong's flesh and blood body is simply more vulnerable than Prime's steel frame. Kong is also not as strong. All Kong has on his side is mass. Prime has strength, speed, training, durability, and weaponry on his side.


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Then why use that analogy?

It was hammered to shit. Clear to see in 1 and 3. (and of course 2 where he dies from the explosive round you cliam he is immune from? So much for durability)

Training at fighting Kong?

Ahhhh yes the weaponry he'd have to hide behind.

Blasts that you speculate would have torn apart Kong..

Oh really? Then why run like a girl from the humans in BayTFS1...? Oh yeah he knew that he'd get sector 7'd up and anal probed like Bumblebee.

Do you think that Prime is tougher than absolutely every transformer out there then? Cause we see humans messing many up. Kong can shift that mass at speed. Mass and speed = Damage.
You don't get to be king of skull island without being durable.


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Weren't a group of humans able to hold him down with a net? I don't see them being able to do that to Optimus.


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So funny that you accused Focus of derailment/strawmannery, yet you seem to debate like Kong is gonna be nailed to the spot or stuck up on that Empire State building roof and unable to defend/evade/manoeuvre and will not shift from that position.
Your constant trying to bottleneck all discussion through that irrelevant filter is both hypocritical and very very revealing of your bias.


...you seriously think King Kong can "defend/evade/maneuver" against gunfire? laughing

Who the f*ck do you think he is anyway, Nero? He gets hit several times by the military when he tries to run from them, and only doesn't die because they hit him in non-vital areas with relatively weak arnaments; Prime's weapons, which have demonstrated greater killing power than massed modern airstrikes, would carve him up on first contact.

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Then why use that analogy?

It was hammered to shit. Clear to see in 1 and 3. (and of course 2 where he dies from the explosive round you cliam he is immune from? So much for durability)

Training at fighting Kong?

Ahhhh yes the weaponry he'd have to hide behind.

Blasts that you speculate would have torn apart Kong..

Oh really? Then why run like a girl from the humans in BayTFS1...? Oh yeah he knew that he'd get sector 7'd up and anal probed like Bumblebee.

Do you think that Prime is tougher than absolutely every transformer out there then? Cause we see humans messing many up. Kong can shift that mass at speed. Mass and speed = Damage.
You don't get to be king of skull island without being durable.


Why use that analogy? Seriously, you fail to make the connection? I am a lot more massive than a steel pipe, but I am unable to bend it. Kong trying to bend/break/snap Prime would be like me trying to bend/break/snap 5-8 steel pipes together.


Prime is a trained fighter, Kong is not. Period.

Again, who was hammering Prime? Oh that's right, other transformers made of STEEL.

Again, show me one strength feat of Kong that makes him stronger than Prime.

If you seriously think Prime was running away from humans because of fear for his life, then you dear boy are utterly incapable of understanding a movie. Go watch it again.


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Weren't a group of humans able to hold him down with a net? I don't see them being able to do that to Optimus.


You're forgetting Kong got bombarded with sleeping gas before being held down with ropes & nets.

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Why use that analogy? Seriously, you fail to make the connection? I am a lot more massive than a steel pipe, but I am unable to bend it. Kong trying to bend/break/snap Prime would be like me trying to bend/break/snap 5-8 steel pipes together.


Prime is a trained fighter, Kong is not. Period.

Again, who was hammering Prime? Oh that's right, other transformers made of STEEL.

Again, show me one strength feat of Kong that makes him stronger than Prime.

If you seriously think Prime was running away from humans because of fear for his life, then you dear boy are utterly incapable of understanding a movie. Go watch it again.




I get why you used it. It was a rhetorical question as you seemed to use the analogy then go back on it.

The world is full of people and things that are devastating yet never received a lesson in their life. Especially animals.
You can train up a weedy 7 stone/5ft4 guy as much as you like..but against an untrained guy of George Foreman's size hes doomed.

Please provide proof that TFS are made of steel.

Ok the feat of being 2 thirds bigger in mass and size than Prime with proportionate Silverback strength.

Your posturing denotes severe butthurt.
I guess you think that he was running for fitness then...?
I suppose you feel that Bumblebee was treated to a nice footrub and a spa by sector 7 then...


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...you seriously think King Kong can "defend/evade/maneuver" against gunfire? laughing

Who the f*ck do you think he is anyway, Nero? He gets hit several times by the military when he tries to run from them, and only doesn't die because they hit him in non-vital areas with relatively weak arnaments; Prime's weapons, which have demonstrated greater killing power than massed modern airstrikes, would carve him up on first contact.


Yeah. Its called running/moving not being a sitting duck.

Translation: "Prime hides again behind Melee and Range weapons" What the f**k do you think is the point then of this thread? lol


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Please provide proof that TFS are made of steel.


LOL. lololol. I'm done here.


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Well you haven't really provided proof

all you've done is just gone out and said these robots are made out of steel.


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I had a Transformers when I was a kid.
It was made out of plastic.

So yeah, Kong stomps on it.

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Steel doesn't reconfigure itself from a beaten up camaro into a latest model. Or have sentience.

How about the window and headlights glass and the tyres? The optical sensors?


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Optimus has been in the vicinity of explosions, kinetic impacts, and temperatures that would make Kong cry for a banana. Please list these durability feats Kong has that are superior to Prime's.


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Why should I do your work for you? Watch the Kong movies, you lazy f**k. stick out tongue

Sam was in the vicinty of many of those same things and survived. (Except that bit at the end of ROTF, where he survived bought back by the primes, so technically surviving that, too...)
He was a human. Kong is tougher than a human.


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