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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Are you to lazy to look at the movie.


LOL, it's not on me to provide your evidence.

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Even accidentally, with cars crashing into him, he was unmoved and the span off totally stoved in.


You're shifting goalposts. We were discussing Kong's ripping metal, which you claim he could do. Post video of this happening, and we can compare it to Prime's feats.

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There none on YT of 76 kong at the mo, but here til it turns up:


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LOL, it's not on me to provide your evidence.



You're shifting goalposts. We were discussing Kong's ripping metal, which you claim he could do. Post video of this happening, and we can compare it to Prime's feats.


There was tonnes of evidence in this thread that you chose to ignore. Not my prob.

Now provide evidence that you typed you name to be Master Han in your profile and that magical sky fairies didnt do it instead.. Put up a video proving that Humans breathe air!!! Oh wait! You're about to say that that would be silly as somethings are just evident...? Lies! You must be too lazy!!!!!!! shifty

Seriously dude. Just watch the f**king movies lol


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^are you aware that the metal I posted Prime ripping had tanked missile strikes and minigun volleys?

Are you aware that Megatron and his initial decepticons were thrown into the mariana trench, and still weren't crushed or noticeably deformed after a year of almost 16,000 psi of pressure?

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He used tools to do it.

Despite Megatron having to be totally rebuilt you mean? LOLOLOLOL

If Megatron was already flooded, why would he? Have you seen the Abyss? Notice that Bud did not crush or deform for the same reason when flooding his chest with that oxygenated breathing fluid. (Coffee died when his sub collapsed due to damage to the cockpit along with rapid descent AND the equalisation being off.)


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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Despite Megatron having to be totally rebuilt you mean? LOLOLOLOL


Looks like Robtard is rubbing off on you.

Stop nitpicking. The point is that the metal Prime rips is FAR tougher than the metal Kong rips, and so you've still produced nothing to suggest that Kong is stronger.

Note that he's going to have to be so strong to kill Prime instantly, because Prime merely has to grab his head and extend his sword.

EDIT: oohh, edit. Actually he didn't. He did use spiked knuckles to punch the dude's midsection (but these are part of his hand's structure, so...), but he ripped his spine out with his bear hands.

And why can't he use tools, BTW?

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Thats YOUR speculation.
Again: Its not a nitpick to point out that he had a rebuild. He even transformed into something totally different afterwards.
Was plane now tank and one of his legs was another Decepticon's parts, and since his leg was intact after Prime had finished with him, maybe it crushed at depth along with other parts....maybe they rusted.
Well yeah punching his head off would kinda do that. Or rpiing arms off wouldn't take long. If Kong was to wait infront of him to stab him....

Because he will be dead or the arm in question will be severed and on the floor or Prime will be too busy flying rapidly towards some unforgiving surface having been flung by Kong..


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You're dodging the point.

How does Kong's ripping 1933 steel structures compare to Prime's ripping metal that could tank airstrikes?

And why can't Prime just extend his massive swords and slice Kong's head off?

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1970s. 1933 stuff was made solid! A head on colllsion between one of those old things and a new type car, My money is on the old type metal. Remember Doc Brown in BTTF on about the old Ford ripping through the DeLorean like it was tinfoil?

Now detail the airstrikes:

*What is the armour made of..?
*How thick is it..?
*What was the nature of the missle/objects hitting it..?
*What was their yield?
*What angle were the impacts at...?
*Were the 'missile/rounds' heading toward the target or was the target moving away at the time?
*What was the measurement of the damage, depth and surface area?

Get back to me where you can answer those.


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1970s. 1933 stuff was made solid!


roll eyes (sarcastic) Dude, we're not comparing civilian variants. We're talking about futuristic armor that can take missile strikes. Indeed, prior to the human's adapting with sabot rounds and by exposing weak points, the decepticons were pretty much invulnerable to conventional fire.

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Now detail the airstrikes:

*What is the armour made of..?
*How thick is it..?
*What was the nature of the missle/objects hitting it..?
*What was their yield?
*What angle were the impacts at...?
*Were the 'missile/rounds' heading toward the target or was the target moving away at the time?
*What was the measurement of the damage, depth and surface area?

Get back to me where you can answer those.


I would need to answer these questions if the burden of proof were so tight. But right now, my burden is merely to prove that the metal in question is toughER than the ones from 1933.

Missiles couldn't dent transformers pre-sabot. Guess what? An A10 would shred even WWII tank armor.

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Well you'd best get cracking then.

They did affect them, blackout had a shield. (That magically was never used again after the airbase attack)
And?
That says more about advances in our weapons than the metals.


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Well you'd best get cracking then.


Already did. My burden of proof does not require answering your obvious troll questions.

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They did affect them, blackout had a shield. (That magically was never used again after the airbase attack)


Doesn't change my point. None of the human weapons could seriously hurt the transformers before they adapted.

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And?


And, ergo, transformer metal >>>> 1933 metal.

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Already did. My burden of proof does not require answering your obvious troll questions.



Doesn't change my point. None of the human weapons could seriously hurt the transformers before they adapted.



And, ergo, transformer metal >>>> 1933 metal.


Worng agin. Sam and Mikalea didnt adapt SHIT.
Cut frenzy up like a *****.


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^I see. I thought we were talking about Optimus Prime and the decepticons he fought in the relevant video, but it appears that you're more interested in discussing the capabilities of a 1 foot tall comedy relief character.

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Oh ok, so if a bigger transformer was to be hit with a car, the car should lose, right?

Also the fact that somthing (That killed a bunch of people) is "comedy relief" it therefore is undangerous/tough?
I guess if Schwarzenegger in Jingle all the way or Groucho or Jar Jar pulled the trigger on a .38 aimed at your head, you'd be fine eh?

Guess Devastator was nothing then, (having those comedy demolition ball testicles) huh?

Small or not, it was made of TF metal right?
Sawn apart with a human electric handsaw..?

Sorry but yours is clearly a moronic line of reasoning to choose.


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Define the starting velocities, the mass of the car, "lose", etc.

Hint: which one goes flying depends on momentum, KE and whether the collision is elastic.

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Just pulling out into a street, maybe...accelerating maybe...and average type 2-3 tonnes car.


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