I'll play a little devil's advocate - since Marek is stronger than Vader, does that mean he would have been stronger than Luke? He at least would have been on par with Mace, Yoda and Kyp.
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It matters not. Vader has had his china body (and china mind) exposed enough times.
They fought on a Space Station and Vader suffered a knock down and was further exposed as a hype job when he got the ceiling collapsed on his head. He was then knocked down again.
Vader had a china body (it was armored, and he still got put on his ass by mere kicks) and was KOED in this fight.
Starkiller did not train for that fight, and yet he easily won.
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He didn't "easily won", they were on equal footing and marek was nearly throttled to death earlier in the fight until he reached his clarity and kicked his ass.
You don't actually know much about the saga then, do you?
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Calling Vader the Mcneely of SW shows the level of your bias. The guy handled himself against many dangerous foes including the Dark Lady, 6 Jedi in purge, Maul and he killed Palpy while enduring fatal lightning, he had a tremendously high threshold of pain to complement resourcefullness and skill. How does that even correlate to Mcneely? And unlike Sith like Bane, Nadd et al he actually functioned at a galactic scale.
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Good thing you're not in charge of quality control at LA, we'd be bombarded by an even greater number of ho-hum Sith Lords with even more derivative and unimaginative stories.
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With a superior imagination, Lewis would have lost to Grant in 2. In fact, Botha would have had him in one.
Tyson would have, oh... been gone in 3 against Douglas (instead of 10), and Berkick? Well, let's just say that Ali's genes would have picked up super powers instead of Parkinson's!
In the end though, china/emo Vader, is a main character of Star Wars, and you should take a hint from Lucas and embrace him.
Meanwhile, non china chinned Sith Lords Live: It is why Bane is around (and don't forget the retard Sion)
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Well, I think that Zannah will be extremely powerful in the next Bane book (way more powerful than Padme: the woman who pwned Vader), so I look forward to it.
Also, there are characters so powerful in Star Wars that they are close to being perfect. For example, Darth Revan is a "Gary Stu". This means that the author makes him ridiculously powerful/perfect.
So, it is not as if Bane is the only Great character.
Revan was a gary stu in terms of background story with the Mando wars and his life before the Mando wars, he was brought down to Earth to some degree with the beginning of Kotor 1 when he is captured by Bastila.
I recognize that some people like the direction Drew K. went with Bane after Jedi vs Sith, but I don't particularly think it was the best direction.
Plus the Bane books don't have the scope I was expecting, I don't mean galactic level wars, I mean we're not given a good picture of the internal workings of the galaxy i.e. the era isn't fleshed out enough which reduces the impact of the story IMO.
Also, in ROT Zannah didn't come off as a convincing Sith let alone the heir apparent to the DLOTS.
I do realize it's hard to write stories where the outcome is set in stone, however Drew. K could have done more with the personalities and motivations of these two lead characters.
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