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They created it yes, but it was still a biological entity, not a mechanical one.


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I'm pretty sure Veidt times it to explode on impact.

That's why I assumed it wasn't an actual living creature. Just something that looked like one, and it was made. So either way it's artificial.

Doesn't matter what it looks like though. It ends with an alien attack, should be that way in the movie.

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They created it, you see them creating it, sketching out ideas.

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It's a cloned thing. It's not a robot. I'm fairly certain that that was the reason Veidt "made" Bubastis- to experiment with genetics. It involved cloning the brain of a psychic and whatnot. It certainly wasn't a robot/ droid...
Also, it didn't explode. It released some kind of psychic shockwave. That's why all the buildings were left standing!


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He actually has people designing it, also.

Obviously it doesn't "explode" since you see it sitting on a building.

"Impact" being appropriate word then. Regardless of how or why, it's there, it needs to stay there.

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yes it does that was a brillant way to end. the whole dr manhattan is too blame doesnt have the same effect


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Regardless of how or why, it's there, it needs to stay there.

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Definitely. However, clearly it's not "super awesome" enough for Mr Snyder...


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If I remember correctly the creature "exploded" (might also say "burst") because of a flaw in the teleportation system (a known flaw, part of Veidts plan), but because of the creatures psychic abilities it released a "psychic shockwave" in it's death throw, which was what killed everyone, it basicaly fried their brains.


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Are there going to be different parts, or is it all going to be squished into one movie?

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If I remember correctly the creature "exploded" (might also say "burst") because of a flaw in the teleportation system (a known flaw, part of Veidts plan), but because of the creatures psychic abilities it released a "psychic shockwave" in it's death throw, which was what killed everyone, it basicaly fried their brains.


Yes. That's right. I do think the psychic part was one of the novel's few weaknesses. It was so random. In such a realistic world (i.e: Manhattan was the only "metahuman"), psychics existing was a little strange. It didn't quite fit.

Anyway, unknowable, sadly this will be one film. It's supposed to be about 2 hours and 45 minutes long.


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Dave Gibbons was in Toronto yesterday, promoting his behind-the-scenes book about the making of the comic: Watching The Watchmen. Which also ties in with the coming movie. Here's a quote from him from the Toronto Star, allaying the concern of fans:

"Don't be worried. Rest easy, I've seen a rough cut of the whole thing and I wasn't disappointed, and I really don't think most fans will be either."


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To be fair, as much as I like Dave Gibbons, he hardly seems the type to openly admit that the film's a pile of shit. I'll make up my mind come March, though I now have strong misgivings.


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So...

WATCHMEN: "Non-Squid" Pre-Screening Was a Test of Fan Tolerance

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"I'm told that this screening was intentionally leaked to the fan press - with the exact time and place posted online with details of how to evade the security. The intent is to gauge fan reaction to a squidless ending for Watchmen and see what they can get away with, believing it to be more suitable for a more mainstream audience. The FX for the squid has been completed however."


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If this is true, it was a bold move by the studio... and Snyder for having filmed such ending (the "Manhattan did it" ending).

The alternate ending must be more suitable for mainstream audiences (which is is to whom the movie is targeted anyway), but I don't think I'd tolerate an "squidless" ending...

...I'll still wait to see the movie to say whether it sucks or not


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A squid or not a squid, that is the question.


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Zack Snyder has said there will be NO squid in the film. Here are some new details on the film's ending, etc:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/10...-book/#comments


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Well, as far as I am concerned (And I'd think every self-respecting Watchmen fan), he's f*cked up.

The only reason this was changed was to cater to the masses, so he can put his movie up his ass.

Changing Moore's work isn't acceptable or workable on any level. Naturally people have decided, as I said, that they'll love this film, and that won't change. Some even in this thread.

I think that removes all of Zack Snyder's credibility. He can't say he respect's Moore's work and wishes if he's going to make the movie AND change it.

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Good God... this is worse than everyone wearing V masks and marching through the streets of London. Hell, this is worse than Inspector Abberline being an opium-addicted psychic...


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I don't understand why everyone was buried inside Zack Snyder.

He made a great job of a graphic novel that was about a page long, with a couple of lines of dialogue.

Why did anybody think, "This man can do Watchmen."? Especially when better directors have tackled lesser Moore novels and failed.

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good but i hate manhatten's voice


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Wow, I really disliked that trailer. The music was a bit shit, Manhattan's and Rorschach's voice bugged me a bit, the use of the word "Watchmen" was agony, some of those lines were awfully corny (the "Retribution" part and the "you mess with one of us..." bit, or whatever the hell Rorschach said- very clicheed)...
Oh, and Veidt was too German and looks much too like Chris O'Donnell as Robin for my liking.
There were some parts I liked, sure (well, um, Malin Akerman) but it really didn't convince me that I can cope with a squid-free ending...


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