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Originally posted by KingD19
Well, the thing is, even though all 3 of team 1 can heal, they can be knocked unconscious. It was proved in WWH, that all you have to do is pound them in the face reaaaaly hard. And Colossus, Thing, and Abomination can all hit reaaaaaly hard. Plus, 616 Wolverine hasn't cut through 616 Colossus, there's a scan of him in a beserker rage clawing at his chest. Colossus said it scoured his metallic skin, but it didn't pierce it. Plus I believe Sabertooth's joints weren't adamantium.

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Originally posted by wolfpack86
This should answer your question...


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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...oganandcolo.jpg

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea, a berzerker Logan attacked Colossus and clawed his chest with minimal damage. Also, I've heard berzerker Wolverine is stronger than normal.

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Originally posted by KingD19
Well, the thing is, even though all 3 of team 1 can heal, they can be knocked unconscious. It was proved in WWH, that all you have to do is pound them in the face reaaaaly hard. And Colossus, Thing, and Abomination can all hit reaaaaaly hard.

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Originally posted by KingD19
Plus, 616 Wolverine hasn't cut through 616 Colossus, there's a scan of him in a beserker rage clawing at his chest. Colossus said it scoured his metallic skin, but it didn't pierce it. Plus I believe Sabertooth's joints weren't adamantium.

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Originally posted by KingD19
Well, what they said, and what they did is two different things. Colossus was in 616 clawed at by Logan, and if he was feral or not, he wasn't holding back, and he didn't cut through him.

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Originally posted by KingD19
Also, getting in close might be easier than you give the heavy hitter credit for. Colossus is skilled in Judo, and Ben in boxing, and Abomination can take quite a bit before he gets put down.

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
he was mind controlled meaning he was not fighting to his best. also feral is not berserker. also colossus after the fact and wolverine both believe he can and would cut him.




thats nice however there counter parts are master of serveral martial arts including the styles of both judo and boxing........so that holds little weight.....also who do you think taught colossus most of his fighting moves?

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Originally posted by fangirl101
Abomination could solo.

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Originally posted by celestialdemon
Strongmen win. Abomination is too powerful for them.

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Originally posted by jinzin


Wolverine has EVERY SINGLE CONCEIVABLE ADVANTAGE in this fight with the exception of strength.. and strength is simply not enough...

Experience- Wolverine's lived several lifetimes and been a reincarnating warrior spirit since biblical times. His skills are so that he outfought the angel of death dozens of times without losing once and been in every major war since coming of age. Just walking onto the field Abom has to worry about going up against someone with much more tactical knowledge, muscle memory, and practice on the battlefield. It doesn't help that Wolverine also has fought tons and tons of bricks with a winning record. How many superhuman midgets has Abom fought that he's had to worry about? Based off experience alone, Wolverine's a difficult opponent to overcome.

Better fighter- Wolverine's such an exponentially better fighter than Abomination that there's no real world comparison I can come up with that even begins to demonstrate the gap in their abilities when it comes to fighting. You're talking about a guy on par with Captain America if not better. Even if Logan was a mere human his vast fighting skill would make for an interesting fight against Abomination.

Sheer speed- Wolverine has multiples upon multiples of speed feats and a number of them are going up against bricks just like Abomination. Attacking Hulk and Wendigo without having one blow landing on him. Knocking Kierrok out before Kierrok could even put up a suitable defense. And those are low end. Wolverine casually dodges machine gun fire, bats away rockets, and disappears infront of human sight. He's fast enough to make Spiderman think he's inferior in the speed department for a moment. Now Abomination has to worry about someone who's not only vastly more vetted and skilled than himself, but far faster by comparison to boot.

Enhanced agility- Wolverine's agility has helped to allow him to engage in close combat with Wendigo without being touched before knocking Wends out. He's fooled Hydra into thinking he's Beast, and dodged lasers in a confined space alongside Spiderman. With his agility not only can he compound on his speed to contort and avoid blows from Abomination but he can move from ground attacks to aerial attacks with smooth transitions and perfect balance. So now, Abom has to worry about a more experienced fighter, with vastly superior skill, who is zipping around faster than he can while employing acrobatics intermixed in defense and offense.

Claws- Wolverine can take an Abom punch to the head. He can take another to the head, and another. and another, and another... and so on and so forth... How many times can Abom afford to be punched by Wolverine in turn? Yeah, he can't. Even non life threatening attacks will draw lots of blood from Wolverine. Abomination has to worry about vitals, he has to worry about veins, arteries, he has to worry about accumulation. Wolverine isn't nearly as handicapped, he can take a number of Abomination's attacks and he's the only one here with a one hit killer weapon.

Healing Factor- It allows Wolverine to attack with total disregard to defense and focus completely on offense if he wants to. It's far faster than Abominations and can actually help Wolverine maintain and tolerate the damage he might take in the fight. Abom's doesn't simple as.

Enhanced Senses- Wolverine hearing and sense of smell allow him to fight skilled opponents while blinded even completely dodging attacks in the dark. His sense of touch can detect wind shifts in the air allowing him to react to things as fast as Cyk's eye beams before they reach him without looking. His sense of sight slows time down, allowing him to actually see bullets as they pass by him. His enhanced senses only compound on his speed advantage and add to the response time of his reflexes better allowing him to avoid being attacked at all.

Abomination has to worry about all this and you think Wolverine needs to be concerned about Abomination landing a glancing blow and sending him flying for miles?
Well let's see.. Hulk's done it several times, each time Wolverine's got up and run back to the fight.
Wrecker tried that, Wolverine ran back to the fight and diced him up.
Thing punched him through a building down a couple city blocks, he got back up, ran back to the fight....
I think you see where this is going....
And punching Logan away from the fight?

Yeah, that's a good strategy. At least the fight starts out where both guys can see each other. One hit that sends Logan flying miles isn't going to knock Logan out, it's going to help ensure Logan uses another one of his abilities that doesn't come into play at the start of the fight...
Stealth- The guy can sneak up on other superhumans with heightened senses, he can sneak up on deer, infiltrate the baxter building, run through the woods full sprint without making a sound, disappear in broad daylight.... It's possibly the worst thing Abomination could do here, it even allows Wolverine to fully recover from the hit.

All Abomination has here is strength and reach.. that's it... no skills, no brains, no other powers. Just strength, reach, and the hope for a lucky punch (not only in hitting Logan at all, but KOing him when loads don't tend to work most of the time as it is). So the question is, do you think Abom is a lucky guy? To me, his face would dictate otherwise.

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Originally posted by illadelph12
Strongmen in my opinion. Thunderclaps followed by continous class 100 full nelsons and dragon suplexes.

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Originally posted by jinzin
yeah?

NO......

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Originally posted by jinzin
Yep, because the Thunderclap's worked plenty before.

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Originally posted by fangirl101
Or the three strong men just pick up the ground and slam the healers.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Who move out of the way.

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Originally posted by fangirl101
Who get hit by huge chunks of flying debris.