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Kirikaze Fuuma
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I think Goku will win. but if Goku really had a pressure points, he will experience a pain that he never imagined before.

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He obviously does have pressure points.

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As fast as they throw blows in DBZ? They're arms and legs are blurs, and only stop when they block.

Same goes for HNK and they don't stop when they block.

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Simply put the three most powerful warriors in the DBZ verse are:
1.SSJ4 Gogeta
2.SSJ4 Goku
3.SSJ4 Vegeta

Ken can't take SSJ4 Goku.

None of those characters are from DBZ.

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SSJ4 Goku busts the solar system with ease based on powerscaling.

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When I say DBZ I mean Dragonball universe from start to finish. It's easier to say DBZ then DBGT, or just DB. I watched the dragonball z series first, so it's what I always use.

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Wei Phoenix
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SSJ4 Goku busts the solar system with ease based on powerscaling.

There is no official power levels in DBGT and he has never showed the power to destroy a solar system. If he did then the planet would be destroyed along with said Solar System.

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Mar 25th, 2009 05:56 AM

KingD19
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Well, considering he blocked a ball that was supposedly powerful enough to destroy a planet, I'd say he's at least on planet busting level. Probably higher, because if Frieza could do it, then SSJ4 Goku is far beyond.

Mar 25th, 2009 06:22 AM

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It's just completely unknown. Hyperbole says Cell can destroy the solar system (AKA supernova power), but he charged for like five minutes.

As far as I can tell, GT Goku would still have to charge even though he can do a lot more (collapse a black hole after ten minutes of charging?)

Bah. GT's screwy anyway, but it's obvious that Ken has little chance. A city buster can be fired instantly and then it's bye-bye Kenshiro.

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It's just completely unknown. Hyperbole says Cell can destroy the solar system (AKA supernova power), but he charged for like five minutes.

As far as I can tell, GT Goku would still have to charge even though he can do a lot more (collapse a black hole after ten minutes of charging?)

Bah. GT's screwy anyway, but it's obvious that Ken has little chance. A city buster can be fired instantly and then it's bye-bye Kenshiro.

...unless of course Goku is foolish enough to under estimate Ken and give him the first shot...

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Being in character, Ken probably won't kill him either.

I see this ending in a non lethal KO or draw, with Goku having a new respect for Ken's pressure point techniques and fighting style, and Ken having respect for Goku's power and ki techniques.

Like I said on page one though, I see Adult Goku from Dragonball being beatable by Ken fairly. He's more consistently invisible speed, and he has way higher ki durability, but Ken's pressure points, Musou Tensei, and copying technique should even things out.

Mar 26th, 2009 01:49 AM

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Goku versus Kenshiro?

What, is Goku's speed, strength and durability suddenly reduced to 0.0001% of his normal showings or something?

Goku wins with absolutely no difficulty whatsoever.

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Goku versus Kenshiro?

What, is Goku's speed, strength and durability suddenly reduced to 0.0001% of his normal showings or something?

Goku wins with absolutely no difficulty whatsoever.

Goku better not give him the first hit.

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Goku versus Kenshiro?

What, is Goku's speed, strength and durability suddenly reduced to 0.0001% of his normal showings or something?

Goku wins with absolutely no difficulty whatsoever.

You see, this is what I was thinking.

If an axe shattered on 8-year old Goku, then how can Kenshiro even come close to doing anything to Goku?

Also, SSJ4 Goku struggled with the building because he was using his mind to apply that pressure to the entire building instead of that one spot he was pushing.

PIS explained. big grin

It's still PIS if Goku does that, though, as his SSJ4 form should be so powerful that he could pick up a planet with his mind. (If power scaling actually occured.)

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You see, this is what I was thinking.

If an axe shattered on 8-year old Goku, then how can Kenshiro even come close to doing anything to Goku?

Also, SSJ4 Goku struggled with the building because he was using his mind to apply that pressure to the entire building instead of that one spot he was pushing.

PIS explained.

It's still PIS if Goku does that, though, as his SSJ4 form should be so powerful that he could pick up a planet with his mind. (If power scaling actually occured.)

Because Kenshiro doesn't defeat his opponents from the outside. He destroys the body from the inside. Pressure points are pressure points. 1 finger to the temple and he is dead in three seconds.

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Because Kenshiro doesn't defeat his opponents from the outside. He destroys the body from the inside. Pressure points are pressure points. 1 finger to the temple and he is dead in three seconds.

The hits have to penetrate into the body in order to be of any use.

Goku is much stronger than a diamond...based on his "feats" of durability.

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diamond is only hard, its not all that strong, but i agree with you completely im just pointing that out cuz it always bugs me

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The hits have to penetrate into the body in order to be of any use.

Goku is much stronger than a diamond...based on his "feats" of durability.

No they don't. His attacks rarely penetrate the body's skin or anything. Kenshiro can crush diamonds with his hands. Destroyed a tank with his fists and lifts rocks at least over 500 tons. If you still think he has to do pierce the body then he could use Toki's move Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken

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No they don't. His attacks rarely penetrate the body's skin or anything. Kenshiro can crush diamonds with his hands. Destroyed a tank with his fists and lifts rocks at least over 500 tons. If you still think he has to do pierce the body then he could use Toki's move Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken

Let's put it into perspective.

Goku flexes his Ki, just like he did for SSJ3. Since he's much stronger in SSJ4, he has much more Ki. Shaking the planet apart.

Hooray! Goku then uses IT to go to another planet.

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Wei Phoenix
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Let's put it into perspective.

Goku flexes his Ki, just like he did for SSJ3. Since he's much stronger in SSJ4, he has much more Ki. Shaking the planet apart.

Hooray! Goku then uses IT to go to another planet.

Not really, that move prevents the body from moving. It is also a counter move so Goku would have to attack first. Thats just one way he could stop him without physically touching him even though physically touching him can work as well. Hell he'd just have to grab his wrist and he'll die.

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Not really, that move prevents the body from moving. It is also a counter move so Goku would have to attack first. Thats just one way he could stop him without physically touching him even though physically touching him can work as well. Hell he'd just have to grab his wrist and he'll die.

So, Kenshiro can fly? shifty

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