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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
you should post a pic of rorschach screaming do it do it! from the movie at the end of your post.

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Originally posted by Digi
I've suggested a few names for mod consideration, as well as bounced a few ideas off of everyone that people have come up with for regulating the forums in a better manner.

As of now, the official plan is still to close the forum in the near future. The suggestions are simply an attempt to stave off that eventuality. But I don't want to plant false hope, so take it for what it is: a possible solution, but not an approved course of action as of right now.

Among the names mentioned or nominated in here (delph, guy, leo, Starscream, etc.) I've passed along some of them, as well as a few others. Thanks for the suggestions.

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Originally posted by Allankles
This is a decent solution to ensure that people can actually debate when they choose to chip in with their opinions. Give posts a minimum amount of words requirement, like they do on some game faq review sections on some sites.

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Originally posted by Blair Wind


In fact, I would love to hear starscreams "plans." I doubt they are good, but if he actually comes up with something, and it is legitimate, I'll lend my support to him.

Why? Because Leo is another Digi, we need someone different to balance the elitist group mentality. Guy already has lots on his plate being moderator of other places, and Delph already got booted out of the position.

This year is all about being Pro-Change. After him, I would support a Leo mod.

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Originally posted by shiv
Looked through all the comments presented in Both Threads.

Forum Malfunction: Primary Causes. 2

-High volume of Reports and Referrals for Globals and Mods to process.

-leniency on persistent offenders. [Forum mod's understaffed to devote optimum attention to cases]

Solution

-Full Perma Ban resources For Bada And Raoul

-Reassign Tron to The Poetry Forum.
Installing 2 Mods from:

Starscream M
Juntai
Self
Darthgoober
Philosophia
Other

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Originally posted by SupremeMan
Actually I don't have an issue with what you said here. In fact, over on ComiXtreme, the mod there talked about going with average showings in one debate and I was okay with it because, as far as I saw, they have no specific rules for debating. They don't have any rule about debating based on high-end feats so you can't really criticize them for something that isn't a rule there. Here it is a rule.

I was thinking about this today. In one respect, the whole 'going with the average' or 'character-based' as some insist, has some merits. For example, if I were to randomly dig out and read a dozen issues of Wonder Woman and a dozen issues of the Hulk, I would probably draw the conclusion that the Hulk would have a decent chance of winning 6+ out of 10. On an average, I'd say he seems stronger and more durable. She's faster but in a fight, she seldom seems a zillion times faster. So if we went with the average, she'd hit him far more than he hit her but I think he'd overwhelm her with sheer brute force more often than not (like berserk Superman did).

I'm aware there are other factors, the lasso, that she has the power of flight and such, which is why I say at least 6 or more but NOT 10/10. Also, I don't read Justice League but I'm told she is more powerful there than in her own comic.

There are also other merits for the average or general showing. For example, and forgive me I really don't mean to target anybody but its just a recent example that is fresh in my mind.

Let's say you've got somebody who is, oh, a Wonder Woman expert to the point that even those who disagree with him would still admit he is the WW guru. He knows everything there is to know about WW. He may or may not know a lot about her opponent but he really doesn't have to. He knows almost everything about her so he can slam everybody with the highest feats she has ever done. Those disagreeing might think, 'Well, the general feeling I get is that so-and-so would win but I'm not a guru of that character or any specific character so I can't invoke his ultimate feats. But I've read so-and-so and I've read WW and I know that generally he's more powerful but I can't equal or top the feats he's laid on the table for WW.'

Again, going with a more general or average power level would make it so that people who are ringers (ie. gurus who know everything about a specific character) can't just win by slamming everybody with every rare feat ever done.

On the flipside, if the forum went in that direction, they might as well eliminate most of the rules. The PIS rule would be pretty much irrelevant and I still think it would become too much of an excuse to lowball a character someone doesn't like and play favorites.

Also, without any specific standard like high-end feats, there's no basis for deciding who 'wins' the debate or any real basis for a mod to rule that someone is ignoring feats and such. In the comics, power levels are all over the place so I think you do need some measurable standard where all characters in the fight are measured by that standard. If there is no standard, there's no real debate. Each person can just post their opinion which may be sound or may be based on nothing but there's no point to debating each other because there's no standard of evidence to debate.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Darkseid vs. Thanos

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Originally posted by Mindset
I'm pretty biased and filled with hate, I'd like to be made a mod so I can abuse my powers.

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Originally posted by Mindset
I'm pretty biased and filled with hate, I'd like to be made a mod so I can abuse my powers.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This is why Wondy vs. Hulk, Superman vs. Sentry, Darkseid vs. Thanos etc,

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Originally posted by Juntai
lol.

You're an equal opportunity hater though.

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Originally posted by Mindset
I'm pretty biased and filled with hate, I'd like to be made a mod so I can abuse my powers.

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
I promise to be fair an unbiased

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Originally posted by kgkg
............hoping that trolling , socks etc will stop is wishful thinking especially in a controversial section like this.

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Originally posted by kgkg
But it's seem like there are less active poster than in 2005.

and trolls were common back than as well

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Absolutely not. I vehemently disagree with this post.

if a character consistently fights, stalemates, and defeats higher end opponents than another character has ever faced, they are completely beyond the 2nd character.

This is why Wondy vs. Hulk, Superman vs. Sentry, Darkseid vs. Thanos etc, are terrible matches. Because one of the characters is just flat out more powerful, fights stronger opponents, and operates on a higher level.

There are levels of power and ability, and the fact that they are ignored and downplayed instead of recoqnized as simply being the honest truth.

And that's the whole problem. Sometimes, there just isn't any conceivable or logical way for one character to win if both guys are fighting at their best/not jobbing.

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Originally posted by SupremeMan
Any contrary argument is just lowballing WW because someone doesn't like her. BUT its obvious half the forum does that- not just with her but in threads in general- and its not going to be stopped.