and this is based on what? There has not been any point in which Aizen has shown any ill effect towards anyone elses spiritual pressure. And in Bleach it's the spiritual pressure of Shinigami. Not of some monkey tailed aliens. And it doesn't matter. Aizen would not fight someone who has as much spiritual pressure as you say without having is Zanpaktou already out. So as soon as Trunks got within distance of sight he would become hypnotized by Aizen. No one has yet to put up any argument as to what Trunks is going to do to get out of Aizens hypnosis (which is unbreakable). And the whole "zOMG earth axes don't hurt him he is teh l337 DBZ" doesn't work. The weapons they use in Bleach are spiritual magical weapons. So please, until you have actual proof that Trunks spiritual energy is greater than Aizens, and that Aizens Bankai wont work on Trunks, please stop arguing that Trunks wins just because you're a DBZ fanboy.
Yes, if one's spiritual power is significantly greater than another's and they are close enough, it causes discomfort to those around them. Aizen's is just twice that of a regular captain. Using the laws of deductive reasoning, and the fact that it was NEVER mentioned that Aizen is immune to spiritual pressure overload, he is susceptible to Trunk's "spirit pressure" overload. Since Trunk's reiatsu >>>>>>>>>>>>>Aizen's.
Trunk's doesn't have a Bankai.
We've never seen Aizen's Bankai. It can't be included as a "debate" point until then. Let me know when Aizen has reiatsu enough to destroy a city without effort...then we can consider Trunk's in the same category.
Also, let me know when any bleach character fights very rapidly in sonido or shunpu form...instead of short bursts.
Like I said earlier, this thread should have been closed because it's retarded to compare the two universes unless you pit low level dbz people against highest bleach people.
And, yes, we most certainly can assume a zanpakutou can be considered similar to real world weapons(physically), or are you forgetting that Ichigo's friends to Seireitei were physical beings?
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thats fair enough, but just because he is not compfortable doesnt mean he wouldnt be able to use his sword.
well thats one thing about this debate, the spiritual energy effects their spirit because it is spirit energy it does not effect anything qhysicaly. tho i agree that he probably isnt as powerful as trunks, the only reson i think aizen can win is cuz of his swords ability
more like manifested phisical beings, its just like in the fight against kenpachi, kenpachi was able to stab thru ichigos sword because he didnt have his spirit energy high enough, so its most deffinatly not the same as a normal sword or axe
Wow, did you even read my post? Or did you misquote someone else? I just gave feats of Trunks taking planet a destroying attack, he shreded up Frieza to bits like absolutely nothing. Frieza is far more durable then any Bleach character, while Aizen can't even decapitate Ichigo or Renji.
"Trunks is dbz because he is stronger!"? Who said that? Me? Do you have trouble reading? I posted feats, you know what feats are? It's something YOU haven't been posting. Prove Aizen has an attack that can even scratch Trunks. Prove Aizen has an attack that even comes remotely close to frieza's deathball.
why do you think that he wouldnt be able to do that?
i admit that there isnt any proof that aizen can cut him, but there is no proof to the contrary either. and like it was stated earlyer, he could just make it seem like space is actually earth and have him fly there and sufficate, or fly into the sun or whatever
Because he failed to decapitate or even kill any of captains while they were basically helpless against him. He blocked ichigo, and while Ichigo was basically doing nothing in shocked, he tried to severe him from waist down, but failed. Renji was like doing nothing in shock as well, he failed to severe him, same thing with Hitsuguya.
Aizens illusions doesn't all of a sudden make his oppnent retardedly stupid. Trunks will know if he's flying outside of the earths orbit obviously. He stimply can just destroy the city and Aizen would be dead.
he wasnt trying to kill them, if he wanted them dead he would have just done it while they were in the illusion, he just wanted to accomplish his mission and they attacked him so he disabled them, just cuz they didnt get cut in half doesnt mean he couldnt have done it. hey has trunks ever destroyed earth? then how can you say he is strong enough to do so?
im not saying it would make him stupid, im saying that he wouldnt know what was going on. controlling all the senses makes it so they will feal/see/smell/hear/tast/sence what he wants them to. so if he makes it look like he is on the ground and then starts running away trunks going tward him they continue the chase untill trunks is dead because he is outside earths atmosphear when he was thinking that he was still on earth running on the ground. so yeah he could be the smartest guy on earth and still fall for it.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, ok you quote me saying that i have no proof then you ask for proof? im sorry but that is just dumb. and i wasnt talking about there is no evedence that trunks couldnt hurt aizen i was talking about there being no evedence that aizen wouldnt be able to cut trunks
edit: and its irrelevent anyway im not even arguing about that, im saying that aizen would defete him with an illusion
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No offense man, but this makes you sound stupid. and kind of a douche.
Well, the only thing we can go buy in terms of cutting trunks is how Goku effortlessly blocked Trunks swinging a sword with only his finger. And Goku was at a level that Trunks would soon surpass anyways.
Well he was just asking for proof for you to backup your claims, and you called him dumb for doing so.
Proof is what these entire threads go on.
What exactly would the illusion be? I've only seen him perform the one illusion, that made everyone think a dead body was him. I don't see how that would help him beat Trunks.
yeah i know but he quotes me saying that i admit that i dont have proof then he asks for a scan proving something i just said i didnt have any proof
whatever he wants, he has complete controll of all of his sences, for one thing trunks would never know where he is and he also would think he knows where he is cuz aizen would make him think that he is right in front of him. or he could make him plunge into the middle of the earth by making it seem like its a barrior he has to get thru, or have him fly into space making it seem like he was still on earth and have him suffocate, or he could make it look like he has someone hostage, just use your imagination he could do lots-o-stuff
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