In your own words how smoking wasn't a choice for you?
Not a wiki article on free will or saying "peer pressure", because peer pressure still gives you a choice to make, maybe a more difficult choice, but still a choice.
no im providing what is necessary for the DEBATE based on reason as opposed to your nonsensical WHIMS which have nothing to do with reason. go back and reasses.
copout/dodge. you had already left that argument and only bring it back up so you wudnt have to reply to my query. dont try and entangle things with a stubborn stance on off topic content which you know you can screw so badly that the original question will be forgotten in the coarse. again, you made the claim, now im asking you, what part of the physical body outside the brain actually DEPENDS/DESIRES the chemicals in smoke, as you so ignorantly tried to make an argument out of, differentiating between the mental desire for sex and the PHYSICAL dependancy on smoking. go on, im waiting. and smoking can me prompted by motivational factors which the individual neither asked for, nor created, which takes away a portion of the responsibility the individual shud bear for its consequences. again, dont try to degenerate the discussion into one of your senseless "definition of choice debates"
but you obviously dont know what it means, or understand what it means, or youd know better than for me to answer a loaded question. it stays a false dichotomy. ask a better question and maybe ill answer.
dont tell me what i SHUDNT say rob, give me examples of what i SHUD say, like samples. otherwise ill start to think that this isnt really about my apparent inability to answer your question but your unwillingness to accept any explanation i give you, reguardless of its validity.
I've given all the proof as to exactly why the body is not unnaturally addicted to sex, with negative results. Addiction to smoking is precisely that, an unnatural addiction with negative results, fact.
If you think it is, then you're stupid.
Would you say that the human body is unnaturally addicted to sex, with negative results? No.
It's not natural to smoke cigarettes. It is a choice, and it is physically addictive.
So, all that text and you still haven't answered my question:
statements of unfounded, disproven oppinion are not proof.
if i diasgree with your statement of unfounded oppinion, im stupid. gotcha
posing a question to me and then answering it in negetive yourself.....i see
repeating the argument that has been detroyed and claiming it is PHYSICALLY addictive while not replying to my question which asked which part of the PHYSICAL body, other than the brain its addictive to? well done!
do you even know what you are taling about at this point?
oh you do? what a feather in your hat! bravo bravo!
that isnt a sample answer rob. those are directions. so shud i assume then, that you arent really interested in any answer, and just arguing in the pretense of not getting a good enough answer? your reminding me more and more of JIA.
wow, strawman much. my claim was only that the urge was similar in both things and that both had physical symptoms of WITHDRAWEL. nothing more, nothing else, and i proved this appropriately by illutrating the urges in both case, the difficulty to discontinue, and the physical symptoms of withdrawel .every other statement youve claimed by me is a lie and a strawman.
a lie again, i never said it was unnatural, only that it had a similar urge and was hard to discontinue and had physical withdrawel symptoms which are very clear.
answer a question which ive already answered ad nauseum in the past and youve already answered to yourself? i dont think so.
your inability to read boggles me. i never said it was unnatural. i gave you similar addictive urges, i gave you a LIST of withdrawel symptoms. your ONLY reply was that those were mental and justified{your own claim} while cigerrete smoke had PHYSICALLY addictive chemicals. i asked you the question in return to which part of the physical body other than the BRAIN did any dependancy for these chemicals generate{knowing FULL well that the answer is NONE and that the entire dependancy and addiction is neurological}. you were not only unable to answer but you dodged the question because you made the claim in IGNORANCE "not" knowing of any such PHYSICAL addictive effects which cud differentiate it from the urges in sexual lust.
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Just because it's hard to quit doesn't mean that the personal responsibility of the addict is lifted. He can still quit if he wants. You can choose to do so.
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