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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I know loads of trannies platonically from when I was living in Thailand, mostly a good laugh, some twats, take people as individuals is what I say and always be careful of women with big hands in Bangkok and Phuket.
I'd say that's fair enough, you probably picked up your terminology from actual transexuals and general trans people then. 'Tranny' is often used in those circles in the same way '***' or 'queer' is in gay circles (although 'queer' has evolved lately). You clearly don't have any hate in your heart, unlike Bash.


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as a heterosexual man, in both sex and gender, i could dress up as a lady and wear makeup and be, in fact, a drag queen. if i did, it would be customary courtesy to refer to me, at the time, as "she/her/etc". to do otherwise would be a bit faux-pas, but not _____phopic


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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
as a heterosexual man, in both sex and gender, i could dress up as a lady and wear makeup and be, in fact, a drag queen. if i did, it would be customary courtesy to refer to me, at the time, as "she/her/etc". to do otherwise would be a bit faux-pas, but not _____phopic
Reply to my post, instead of making up a new point of contention, you utter coward.


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I already said that I didn't consider myself 'trans' due to my disagreement with the TRA and current direction of the 'trans movement', but made it clear that I still qualify as 'trans' based on the current accepted definition of the term. I've already spoken about my long history with gender dysphoria, a condition that results in massive amounts of suicides. I've spoken about coming out to my friends and family and how it was difficult at first. Does any of that sound like something I had "fun" with?


You're either incapable of properly adding up information you receive, or you're just gaslighting to avoid having to face up to the fact that you're a massive bigot.


gaslighting again. already provided your own words delegitimizing transgenderism. the wording was clear, so if you misspoke then that's on you, not me


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We're all human we don't need labels for everything.


that would make shopping a hassle


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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
gaslighting again. already provided your own words delegitimizing transgenderism. the wording was clear, so if you misspoke then that's on you, not me
So you're giving up? Okay, transphobe.


I repeat: utter coward.


Remember, I'm watching you. If you keep referring to me using transphobic slurs, I'm not going to let you get away with it. But you can run away for now if you like.


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"i threw a huge vilifying tantrum and ignored your points, so i win and you're a coward".

okay scrib


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Originally posted by Nuke Nixon
We're all human we don't need labels for everything.
I agree. I don't have a term for myself. I'm a biological male, but I've never felt myself to be a 'man', or even a 'boy' before that. People can use whatever pronouns they like for me.


My main issue is with people like Bash acting like the arbiters of what 'trans' means, despite him clearly not understanding it at all. People like him don't get to decide what they refer to gender non-conforming people as, and they sure as shit don't get to erase my non-conforming identity just because they don't think I'm 'trans' enough.


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"i threw a huge vilifying tantrum and ignored your points, so i win and you're a coward".

okay scrib
What points? You ignored all of mine, lol. If you had a point to rebut, I'd have addressed it. You just said I was gaslighting and left it at that.


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throw more baseless accusations at me to prove you're right


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throw more baseless accusations at me to prove you're right
Now you're not even trying.


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I already said that I didn't consider myself 'trans' due to my disagreement with the TRA and current direction of the 'trans movement', but made it clear that I still qualify as 'trans' based on the current accepted definition of the term. I've already spoken about my long history with gender dysphoria, a condition that results in massive amounts of suicides. I've spoken about coming out to my friends and family and how it was difficult at first. Does any of that sound like something I had "fun" with?


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Also, dude, I don't need to prove myself right, you're the one who was slinging transphobic insults around last night, and you hate that you got caught doing it. Grow up and own your hatred, instead of continuing to deny it.


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Like, I've dealt with this shit all my life — do you think I need to wake up and see someone unnecessarily shitting on my identity and belittling it as some little dress-up play?


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I just want to fit in and be happy and comfortable, but you're doing everything you can to make me feel like I'm just some faking 'trap' or garish 'drag queen'. It's bordering on harassment.


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I don't know why I said 'bordering on harassment'. It's targeted harassment, plain and simple.


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so you worded your state of mind incorrectly and actually meant to only describe your own condition as opposed to transgenderism in general.

however "pretending to be a woman" denotes "drag queen". if your desire to appear feminine is rooted in something psychological as opposed to having a good time, and feel a true connection to being female, then that is not "pretending". you should have chosen more careful words if you're so sensitive about the issue. no need to flip out and demonize people for your lack of properly expressing your thoughts.

as far as eon, he literally said that transgenderism is based on nothing but "feelings", so it seemed a proper conclusion that he is actually a drag queen and not trans:

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Originally posted by Eon Blue
Should men looking to be women and vice versa be encouraged or even allowed to cut their body parts off which causes irreparable damage to their bodies and mental stability solely on their feelings etc?


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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so you worded your state of mind incorrectly and actually meant to only describe your own condition as opposed to transgenderism in general.

however "pretending to be a woman" denotes "drag queen". if your desire to appear feminine is rooted in something psychological as opposed to having a good time, and feel a true connection to being female, then that is not "pretending". you should have chosen more careful words if you're so sensitive about the issue. no need to flip out and demonize people for your lack of properly expressing your thoughts.

as far as eon, he literally said that transgenderism is based on nothing but "feelings", so it seemed a proper conclusion that he is actually a drag queen and not trans:
To address your point on what Eon said, you're very clearly misconstruing or plain misunderstanding it. Eon was asking whether people should be allowed to transition based solely off their feelings, which is a genuine question. One of the big problems the transgender community faces at the moment is people who just want to be trans, or vaguely 'feel' they are the opposite gender or gender non-conforming; this is opposed to the proper distinction of transgenderism, which is based around gender dysphoria, and always has been.

The reason why transgender people as a statistical group have such high suicide rates is because as a general thing, trans people have gender dysphoria. The suicide rate for trans people is identical to people who have some form of gender dysphoria because they are largely one and the same.

Of course, 'trans' as a term has changed and become broader; a lot of serious gender non-conforming people without gender dysphoria can also be considered 'trans' by now, but it is rooted in gender dysphoria.

I think however I phrased what I did before, whether it was adequate for you or not, I have made it clear that I still grew up with gender dysphoria, suffered from it, had a hard time coming out to friends and family etc., so you have no defence for your repeat targeting of me. You knew all the details. You have chosen once thing I said as the basis for a defence, and sorry, but it doesn't slide. I made it clear that my gender identity was rooted in everything associated with the 'trans' label, but you went ahead and continually slurred me anyway.

You're not fooling anyone, bigot boi.


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