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Just saying, why would one small area of a walker run on electricity, but not a large part of the rest? Doesn't make much sense.



Why not?...Some small parts of cars work on electricity but the actual car itself runs by combustion of fossil fuels directly powering it.


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Why not?...Some small parts of cars work on electricity but the actual car itself runs by combustion of fossil fuels directly powering it.
A car runs on a battery and an alternator, if the alternator or battery is affected, well, do the math. Not to mention all the electrical wiring. Electronic fuel injection much? Knock EFI out and the car is a paperweight.


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A car runs on a battery and an alternator, if the alternator or battery is affected, well, do the math. Not to mention all the electrical wiring. Electronic fuel injection much? Knock EFI out and the car is a paperweight.


No...A starter motor needs a battery to initiate the combustion reaction but it doesn't need it to sustain the reaction. But even then, it's not run on electricity.

Not to mention that some diesel engines use a pnuematic starter which utilises compressed air to start the reaction.

The battery is used to provide electricity for other systems in the car...Lights, radio etc...Things which aren't neccesary for it to actually function once running.

You do realise that not all cars use electronic fuel injection. Some still use old style mechanical carburators?

Granted, a lot of modern cars use electrical engine managment systems...But some older ones do not.

Anyway....We're getting way off the point.


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LoL at "well if a car needs a battery, then fictional war-machines from an advanced people must also."


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Still trying to strip away the clones being there/having weapons eh..?

Makes me chuckle.


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Why not?...Some small parts of cars work on electricity but the actual car itself runs by combustion of fossil fuels directly powering it.

Not posting an opinion on the outcome of this thread, but for the fuel to combust the spark plugs have to ignite, and they use electricity.


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In earthern tech, sure.


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No...A starter motor needs a battery to initiate the combustion reaction but it doesn't need it to sustain the reaction. But even then, it's not run on electricity.

Not to mention that some diesel engines use a pnuematic starter which utilises compressed air to start the reaction.

The battery is used to provide electricity for other systems in the car...Lights, radio etc...Things which aren't neccesary for it to actually function once running.

You do realise that not all cars use electronic fuel injection. Some still use old style mechanical carburators?

Granted, a lot of modern cars use electrical engine managment systems...But some older ones do not.

Anyway....We're getting way off the point.
Dude, I know how a car engine operates. I am saying that all cars have a shitload of wiring, and all it takes is one short and you could have critical problems. It could actually cause your engine and entire electrical system to shut down, which happened to me last year. Or it could just cause a turn signal to malfunction.

The point is that if a SW walker has any one section of it's components that rely on electricity, odds are most of the walker relies on electricity.

Also, odds are that the Clones sensors, helmet displays and what not rely on electricity, and surely their blasters, which are very intricate pieces of hardware, surely have at least a few electrical components.


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Still trying to strip away the clones being there/having weapons eh..?

Makes me chuckle.
Trying? No, just pointing out that a wizard spell can probably wipe out all their tech. Cuz that's how wizards roll and shit.


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...someone summarize and tell me where you people are in your very, very, insanely long debate.


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We are arguing whether or not the protective spell around Hogwarts will wipe out the clones sensors, weapons and vehicles.

The spell causes electrical systems to go "haywire", out of control, so anything that relies on electricity to function properly will not function properly/efficiently, if at all.

I have proven that the walkers rely on electricity, thus negating them from the battle. I have proven that Anakins lightsaber wont work, because it is loaded with a shitload of electrical components. All that remains is proving, without a doubt, that the clones sensors and blasters will not work. Realistically speaking, they rely on electricity in some way, and will be affected to the point of not working efficiently if at all.


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shouldn't we assume they're already inside the shiled or wouldn't be affected by the shield when they attack? because it would be kinda pointless.


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So because the Clones are at a certain locale, the spell, which stretches far beyond that locale, is nullified? I think not. For all we know, with prep time, Dumbledore will lift the spell, let the clones get close enough, then cast it again.


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In earthern tech, sure.

Exactly im not an ES technician. No one in this forum can speculate as to how the tech from star wars functions. They never talked about it in the movies at all.


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Exactly im not an ES technician. No one in this forum can speculate as to how the tech from star wars functions. They never talked about it in the movies at all.


There's links posted that do talk about how SW tech works/is powered, guess what, it isn't standard voltage. The clones don't have 1.5, 9 or 12 volt batteries in their gear, nor do they plug into 120-240 volt AC wall sockets. Which is what the Harry Potter spell is specifically designed to negate.

I'm surprised RJ has yet to argue that the HP shield-spell won't negate Vader's force abilities.


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There's links posted that do talk about how SW tech works/is powered, guess what, it isn't standard voltage. The clones don't have 1.5, 9 or 12 volt batteries in their gear, nor do they plug into 120-240 volt AC wall sockets. Which is what the Harry Potter spell is specifically designed to negate.

I'm surprised RJ has yet to argue that the HP shield-spell won't negate Vader's force abilities.

My point was that they don't talk about it in the movie. And even if its the most advanced stuff ever known to man, its still made up bs, albeit well thought out bs. Since it doesn't exist in the real world, whatever is written in that article is pointless, as its made up. And not in the movie.


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Wiki can be used as a supplement when we don't have something clear in the films or if it supports the films, for obvious reasons. It does both in this case.

It's as 'made up BS' as is the Harry Potter spells.


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Wiki can be used as a supplement when we don't have something clear in the films or if it supports the films, for obvious reasons. It does both in this case.

It's as 'made up BS' as is the Harry Potter spells.
Do we see any electricity in Hogwarts castle? Any technology whatsoever? Nope.


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Do we see any electricity in Hogwarts castle? Any technology whatsoever? Nope.


and your points as it pertains to what I said?


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But the sword cuts both ways. Simply the lack of tech at hogwarts is not proof that stuff don't work there. Mr. Weasly's flying car worked there come to think of it tho it was enchanted, but still.


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