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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Clone trooper armor more durable than stone? Oooooooooooooooook.......

Its only fair to have the dementors here, against 500 someodd clones. They are, agfter all, n extension of Umbridges power. What would you say if I said Annie should be stripped of his force powers? Same shit.


how is that "fair"?

how it is right now is perfectly fair because the 501st is fighting here with half the fighting force they'd normally have.


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WHy would the clones just pick up random objects?

Info on the armors

Clone Trooper Armor - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_trooper_armor

Stormtrooper Armor - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper_armor

Under stormtrooper protective measures, it says that while stormtrooper armor was weaker than Phase I and II clone armor, it offered better protection against the elements.

And a slugthrower can penetrate tombstones easy, but that won't get through a trooper suit, blaster bolts can slag and shatter stone too.


Portkeys can be made out of any object. The wizards can turn every object the clones would use for cover into a portkey. Hell, they could literally build a protective wall of portkeys around the castle. The clones touch it, bam, they're gone. Pretty simple.


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Like I said, if you can use Dementors, the 501st can use all the weaponry at their disposal, all of it, including the heavy stuff.

And it's not rubber because it's insulated, airtight, and it does more than rubber ever could, plus, I don't even think they use rubber in the star wars universe. And obviously the body suit wouldn't be rubber, they would die from the heat and having all their pores cut off. Plus, if you can survive in space for 20 minutes inside the suit with a full air tank, then that ain't rubber, get over it dude.

I can't remember how portkeys are made, but I'm pretty sure it isn't an instant process. And they'll be using walls and tables and things as cover, turning the whole thing into a portkey would be pointless, since that takes time they don't have.

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How do you know its NOT made of rubber? Hmm?


1. burden of proof isnt on me you made the claim before anyone else that it was made of rubber.

2. youre asking me to prove a negative... which as we all know is an impossibility.

3. the fact that instead of simply answering the question you asked me a question and tried to shift the focus away from you and on to me, leads me t believe you dont actually have any proof at all...


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Originally posted by WO Polaski
how is that "fair"?

how it is right now is perfectly fair because the 501st is fighting here with half the fighting force they'd normally have.


ok, bring the whole ****ing 501st, the dementors alone would pwn them. The wizards can all just apparate away, or hide in the room of requirement as the clones are eliminated one by one.


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Originally posted by WO Polaski
1. burden of proof isnt on me you made the claim before anyone else that it was made of rubber.

2. youre asking me to prove a negative... which as we all know is an impossibility.

3. the fact that instead of simply answering the question you asked me a question and tried to shift the spotlight away, leads me t believe you dont actually have any proof at all...
I'm not trying to shift responsibility here, I am merely asking you to prove the rubber body glove is immune to spells. Thats a pretty bold statement, you know.


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the 501st legion consists of 9,216 troops. hogwarts is getting owned.


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I'm not trying to shift responsibility here, I am merely asking you to prove the rubber body glove is immune to spells. Thats a pretty bold statement, you know.


and im simply telling you that i dont have to prove jack because i didnt make the claim first you did. burdens on you man. and yet again you say its rubber. why is it rubber? how do you know this?


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Actually no, not all the wizards can apparate, and not all of them know of the room of requirement. And like I said, you bring in the Dementors, we bring in AT-AT's and things like that, which can just bring the castle down around the wizards.

Rogue, prove that the body suit is rubber, rubber that's air tight, adjustable to temperature changes, and contours with your body, and can keep you alive in a vacuum. Yeah, prove it's rubber.

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Clone trooper armor more durable than stone? Oooooooooooooooook.......

Its only fair to have the dementors here, against 500 someodd clones. They are, agfter all, n extension of Umbridges power. What would you say if I said Annie should be stripped of his force powers? Same shit.


See the "slug thrower" comment.

Why would it be fair to have a small army of peeps that would be invisible to the Clone Troopers and their weapons couldn't likely harm them? I know, so your HP fanboyism can go full throttle. The thread was made as is, no Dementors, for obviously good reasons too.

Anakin-Vader isn't even needed here, the 500 clones still win with superior numbers, training and weapons.


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Originally posted by WO Polaski
the 501st legion consists of 9,216 troops. hogwarts is getting owned.
How would these 9216 clones fight dementors? They cant see them, their blasters cant hurt them, they can produce no patronus, the dementors would take their time and, one at a time, turn the clones into babbling idiots.


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Actually no, not all the wizards can apparate, and not all of them know of the room of requirement. And like I said, you bring in the Dementors, we bring in AT-AT's and things like that, which can just bring the castle down around the wizards.

Rogue, prove that the body suit is rubber, rubber that's air tight, adjustable to temperature changes, and contours with your body, and can keep you alive in a vacuum. Yeah, prove it's rubber.
Even if the castle was brought down, to win, the clones would have to take out the dementors, which they cant. the wizards who can apparate can side apparate away the inexperienced wizards and let the dementors have a field day.


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How would these 9216 clones fight dementors? They cant see them, their blasters cant hurt them, they can produce no patronus, the dementors would take their time and, one at a time, turn the clones into babbling idiots.


And having an enemy that is completely immune to anything the other side can do seems fair to you? Dude, your HP fanboyism has officially reached critical mass, I suspect the close release date of Halfblood Prince is the cause, scary.


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Oh yeah, and I just read somewhere that to make a portkey, you need ministry approval, which will be kind of hard since ya know, they're in the middle of getting blasted to hell with bright blue bolts of super heated plasma.

Yeah, what they said, the Dementor thing is you just pulling straws out of your ass. That's like having movie Colossus going up against guys armed with nothing but 9mm pistols, they do nothing to him, they can't harm him, but he can easily kill them. See how fair that is?

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See the "slug thrower" comment.

Why would it be fair to have a small army of peeps that would be invisible to the Clone Troopers and their weapons couldn't likely harm them? I know, so your HP fanboyism can go full throttle. The thread was made as is, no Dementors, for obviously good reasons too.

Anakin-Vader isn't even needed here, the 500 still win with superior numbers, training and weapons.


So, you take away one of Umbridges most powerful weapons, AND outnumber the wizards? Yeah, real fair.

Umbridge is a hogwarts teacher, the dementors are under her control, not to include them is like sending the clones in unarmed.

And you know full well I am a rabid SW fan, so stop with the fanboy bullshit. If anything, its you knowing shit about the HP movies.


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Oh yeah, and I just read somewhere that to make a portkey, you need ministry approval, which will be kind of hard since ya know, they're in the middle of getting blasted to hell with bright blue bolts of super heated plasma.

Yeah, what they said, the Dementor thing is you just pulling straws out of your ass. That's like having movie Colossus going up against guys armed with nothing but 9mm pistols, they do nothing to him, they can't harm him, but he can easily kill them. See how fair that is?
Umbridge acts on behalf of the ministry, durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh.


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Dude, having an enemy that is invulnerable to anything one side can do is unfair, I don't care how big a SW fanboy you are, having the Dementors up against the 501st is like having Starkiller going up against younglings with training sabers.

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And having an enemy that is completely immune to anything the other side can do seems fair to you? Dude, your HP fanboyism has officially reached critical mass, I suspect the close release date of Halfblood Prince is the cause, scary.
Same old shit, when painted into a corner, its fanboy this, fanboy that. Funny coming from you, Mrs. McClane, calling someone else a fanboy.


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How would these 9216 clones fight dementors? They cant see them, their blasters cant hurt them, they can produce no patronus, the dementors would take their time and, one at a time, turn the clones into babbling idiots.


it would take them literally months to years to kill all 9000 of them. that means the clones can basically just ignore the dementors completely and take whatever losses they take and kill literally everything else. Hogwarts is destroyed all the students are dead the order is dead the teachers are dead theres just a bunch of dementors running around. the thread starter never said everyone had to be dead he said hogwarts vs. the 501st. if all the children are dead and hogwarts is destroyed then the clones won.


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So, you take away one of Umbridges most powerful weapons,


and vehicles and starship are apart of the 501st legion's weapon set meaning no one would even have to set foot in the school the whole building could just be bombarded from 500 feet up. erm


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