I meant more in terms of paying the ninja for their missions
Also, they have to arrange on how to spend the budget
I wouldn't leave that job to anyone because I wouldn't trust a council with that. Hell, look at what they made Itachi do. I wouldn't trust them with managing the villages budget
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If you aren't going to trust them with even a budget, there's not really much of a point in having a council. The 3rd had them around for a reason. And not just because they used to be his team mates. It's because they know what they're doing.
Anyway, my point is that, the hokage is basically the "General" of the land of fire... it just happens that this comes with a city to manage, as well. But you remember, in terms of politics the hokage is not the head person, not at all.
Yeah I know. And I agree he is more of a figure head though I have a point with Itachi. Also, Danzo is trying to take over the village and was in it with Orochimaru. Just because they're a council doesn't mean they can be completely trusted (though I think in this case at the moment Donzo is the only corrupt on excluding the Uchiha thing in the past in which case 2 other council members were involved.)
So I really do have a point
I mean look at our world. Does our world seem scott free of any corruption? No. And since this manga has a government it reflects aspects of our worlds governments as well as the corruption. I mean if I'm wrong about any of this please tell me but I think I'm right on this one (though yes, the Hokage has almost no financial power though he/ she does have SOME as well as being the "general" of their specific land)
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In no way am I claiming that the council had nothing to do with the Uchiha massacre, in fact they were in favor of it through and through. The Hokage is not a figure head, but he was pretty much the only member of Konoha's inner circle who was against the massacre. I don't think this has to do with corruption though. Even Itachi thought the massacre was the only solution to the Uchiha crisis.
I am just saying, a Hokage's role is to run the village and produce soldier ninja. It is nothing like electing a president, who runs general issues. A Hokage is appointed (not elected) specifically to run the country's military. Konoha is only important so long as it produces good ninja.
I remember Tsunade being appointed but the people had to agree with her being Hokage. I think she might be the only exception though but other than that we're both right I would think (unless of course you disagree in which case I dont really care because I doubt at this point I could change your mind since you most likely firmly believe what you're saying. Though I could be wrong about this)
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You're actually right on that. Apparently a council of Jonin need to confirm a hokage choice. I forgot about that. Though I guess if they were really causing trouble the Daimyo could just add more people ala FDR.
Because it's probably not worth it ;p I myself have too much free time =)
and Thank you by the way =)
p.s still loving the sig
Yes his mind would have been probably well made up. He defeated Naruto handily and lectured him, confident he was able to do the things he could not only because of his ability but because of his ideology. So when Naruto slapping his around as Kyuubi, then suppressed it on willpower alone. Then afterward defeated Deva path as himself despite all the damage the Kyuubi would have done to him. After that happening, one would naturally question how a 15 year old could possess such power. Pain beat Hanzo for pete's sake. The guy who slapped around Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade's as well as judging from the bodies a whole bunch of other ninja.
Just like Gaara, he wanted to know how a person could be so strong and fight so hard. The rest is just stuff i've already explained. He was critically damaged anyway, and at Naruto's mercy. The fact Naruto refused to kill him, even after killing many of his comrades, destroying his home etc. Well it's a powerful thing to see from someone so strong as what Naruto would have seemed to be. Well is i guess.
He also had a paddy when the Hokage was chosen to be the grand commander. He may possess physical power unlike other Ninja, but his head isn't exactly working as it could be.
I think he's going after those 3, and if people get in his way then.... well who knows what he's thinking. We'll just have to wait and see
He has to get one of those chakra rods into him first, and Madara can just phase through those. So yeah it would work but he could never actually execute it.
I would put Pain on top of Madara just because, Madara may be invulnerable but he hasn't really done a whole lot to anyone else either. This isn't necessarily "who could beat who" but who would do better against a wide variety of opponents.
I believe Pain would own Madara. Even if Madara uses that jutsu where things just phase through him he also wouldn't be able to attack. Pain has six different bodies and one of those can heal, and the others specialize in ninjutsu. The sharingans offensive jutsu are used to target one person and since Pain has six bodies as well as being able to absord ninjutsu (not sure if that would work on amaterasu or not though but if it didn't he can still be revived). If Madara is capable of keeping up with Pain, Pain could just use kuchiyose gedo mazo. I dont think Madara would would technically be alive after that)
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I think it would still work even if he did try to flee because since his form would be made of chakra (sort of) wouldn't the jutsu still be able to hit him and steel his soul anyway? I think it might be able to
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I dont think he knows all of his jutsu
I mean he probably knows most of them but I dont really think Pain has really shown anyone but Konan what he's truly capable of.
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Well yeah. I mean the Sage has the perfect body (no homo but by physical means he did) and he freaking invented ninjutsu. I mean Pain is a new generation with new jutsu so I'm sure he could learn every jutsu and make plenty of new ones, I dont see how Madara is the leader. Pain should obviously be more powerful (especially since the Sharingan is supposed to be a watered down version of Rinnegan)
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